07-26-2007, 06:46 PM
07-26-2007, 09:04 PM
I guess this may mean that it's not about the mother having AS, then, but about money.
This stuff is terrible.
Those responsible for these forcible removals of children from their parents deserve to be incarcerated right away, and then charged for kidnapping and human trafficing.
This stuff is terrible.
Those responsible for these forcible removals of children from their parents deserve to be incarcerated right away, and then charged for kidnapping and human trafficing.
07-26-2007, 09:15 PM
this makes me so sad.
07-28-2007, 12:14 PM
Hi
Two weeks before the article you are discussing another story broke on adoption targets which appeared in the Daily Mail/London Tonight newspapers. Almost immediately the Newspapers editors were quickly ordered by Enfield Council to remove all traces of the article.
As if it never happened! but it did - here is that story:
http://endforcedadoptions.spaces.live.com/blog/
IMPORTANT: Remember all who clicks on this link are in contempt of court.
But I believe its in the public interest that people should have the choice.
Best Regards
http://www.fassit.co.uk
Two weeks before the article you are discussing another story broke on adoption targets which appeared in the Daily Mail/London Tonight newspapers. Almost immediately the Newspapers editors were quickly ordered by Enfield Council to remove all traces of the article.
As if it never happened! but it did - here is that story:
http://endforcedadoptions.spaces.live.com/blog/
IMPORTANT: Remember all who clicks on this link are in contempt of court.
But I believe its in the public interest that people should have the choice.
Best Regards
http://www.fassit.co.uk
07-31-2007, 10:56 PM
Fassit Wrote:
Hi
Two weeks before the article you are discussing another story broke on adoption targets which appeared in the Daily Mail/London Tonight newspapers. Almost immediately the Newspapers editors were quickly ordered by Enfield Council to remove all traces of the article.
As if it never happened! but it did - here is that story:
http://endforcedadoptions.spaces.live.com/blog/
IMPORTANT: Remember all who clicks on this link are in contempt of court.
But I believe its in the public interest that people should have the choice.
Best Regards
http://www.fassit.co.uk
Two weeks before the article you are discussing another story broke on adoption targets which appeared in the Daily Mail/London Tonight newspapers. Almost immediately the Newspapers editors were quickly ordered by Enfield Council to remove all traces of the article.
As if it never happened! but it did - here is that story:
http://endforcedadoptions.spaces.live.com/blog/
IMPORTANT: Remember all who clicks on this link are in contempt of court.
But I believe its in the public interest that people should have the choice.
Best Regards
http://www.fassit.co.uk
that makes us in contempt?
then i may as well go whole hog-*** the courts system,its wildly unbalanced.
02-09-2008, 02:44 AM
This is horrible! I've never heard of this before!!
02-09-2008, 05:04 AM
My patience for NT's is running thin again, if we have to protect them, we must punish those who steal babies from Aspergian mothers.
02-09-2008, 03:25 PM
The social work department, in my experience, are nothing more than a group of pen-pushing, egoistic, overzealous Nazis - in suits not boots. They decide they don't like you and [insert deity of choice here] help you; they're sending you to hell on earth one way or another. I despise the social work dept. They don't give a sh*t about parents, they don't give a sh*t about kids... they suit themselves and persecute inconsistently.
When I was a kid, I grew up with a schziophrenic father and started displaying signs of being on the spectrum as a toddler; I was always being referred to the childrens' hospital with this or that. Wouldn't communicate; wouldn't eat properly; hated being around other children; screamed when anyone who wasn't my grandma or aunt tried to touch me; blank expressions (there's a pic of me next to my birthday cake and there's no sign of emotion on my face; ditto pictures with Santa, Xmas morning pictures etc). Even if you didn't notice ASD, you would think red lights would start showing that a kid being raised in an unconventional home was clearly showing signs of not being 'normal'.
When I hit my teens and I wasn't going to school because of the bullying (and abuse at home), I got a child pyschologist and a social worker - I told them both that my mum used to beat me up and scream at me that I was "a freak just like your father". I used to sit in my bedroom alone with my books - I had one close friend at school. Once I had what I now know was a meltdown in front of my dad's CPN - a full scale meltdown, complete with hysterics, head banging, pinching my skin until I had red marks all over my arms - my mum was standing over me screaming in my face that I humiliated her at every chance I got and that she wished she'd never had me. The CPN did nothing; made his awkward excuses and left. Even though I begged my social worker to take me away to a foster home and told them why, they only ever told my mum that I'd been saying that. And she rolled out the usual daytime TV response - "my child hates me and I can't control her". Oh look at the poor parent; the child is defective. But... the child has a high IQ, consistently outperforms her peers academically and only plays truant to sit in libraries doing her schoolwork that way; doesn't drink, doesn't take drugs, doesn't smoke, hasn't had sex, has no interest in her peers... I by no means think the social work department should have detected my ASD; I just find it a little queer that the social work department had a child who was so clearly not defective, or problematic in the usual teenage sense, telling them that she was experiencing physical, mental and, at one point, sexual abuse in the home... and they rejected all of this to support the parent who had demostrated (in front of other authorities) impatience with me. I begged them to talk to teachers at school; they never did. At one point, my mum was trying to insinuate to my pyschologist that she thought I was 'a bit like her father'; cue a load of questions in front of a two way mirror (that I later found out my mother was on the other side of) about my curiousity about my own apparent schziophrenic tendencies. Incidentally, I was 13 when this happened.
The social work department knew full well that I was getting abused at home by my mother and did bugger all about it. Years later, I had another run in with the social work department and they were adament they were going to f*ck me. And believe me, they did.
Pigs.
When I was a kid, I grew up with a schziophrenic father and started displaying signs of being on the spectrum as a toddler; I was always being referred to the childrens' hospital with this or that. Wouldn't communicate; wouldn't eat properly; hated being around other children; screamed when anyone who wasn't my grandma or aunt tried to touch me; blank expressions (there's a pic of me next to my birthday cake and there's no sign of emotion on my face; ditto pictures with Santa, Xmas morning pictures etc). Even if you didn't notice ASD, you would think red lights would start showing that a kid being raised in an unconventional home was clearly showing signs of not being 'normal'.
When I hit my teens and I wasn't going to school because of the bullying (and abuse at home), I got a child pyschologist and a social worker - I told them both that my mum used to beat me up and scream at me that I was "a freak just like your father". I used to sit in my bedroom alone with my books - I had one close friend at school. Once I had what I now know was a meltdown in front of my dad's CPN - a full scale meltdown, complete with hysterics, head banging, pinching my skin until I had red marks all over my arms - my mum was standing over me screaming in my face that I humiliated her at every chance I got and that she wished she'd never had me. The CPN did nothing; made his awkward excuses and left. Even though I begged my social worker to take me away to a foster home and told them why, they only ever told my mum that I'd been saying that. And she rolled out the usual daytime TV response - "my child hates me and I can't control her". Oh look at the poor parent; the child is defective. But... the child has a high IQ, consistently outperforms her peers academically and only plays truant to sit in libraries doing her schoolwork that way; doesn't drink, doesn't take drugs, doesn't smoke, hasn't had sex, has no interest in her peers... I by no means think the social work department should have detected my ASD; I just find it a little queer that the social work department had a child who was so clearly not defective, or problematic in the usual teenage sense, telling them that she was experiencing physical, mental and, at one point, sexual abuse in the home... and they rejected all of this to support the parent who had demostrated (in front of other authorities) impatience with me. I begged them to talk to teachers at school; they never did. At one point, my mum was trying to insinuate to my pyschologist that she thought I was 'a bit like her father'; cue a load of questions in front of a two way mirror (that I later found out my mother was on the other side of) about my curiousity about my own apparent schziophrenic tendencies. Incidentally, I was 13 when this happened.
The social work department knew full well that I was getting abused at home by my mother and did bugger all about it. Years later, I had another run in with the social work department and they were adament they were going to f*ck me. And believe me, they did.
Pigs.
02-09-2008, 08:54 PM
This all reminds me of what happened in Switzerland to the Yenische. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniche_%28people%29
02-09-2008, 10:29 PM
I posted this on another thread recently.
The link to the page I gave is a satire, but 'the Forced Adoption" site has many links to the truth & what a person who finds themselves in this situation can do....it is better read now! than to wait until it is to late!!
The link to the page I gave is a satire, but 'the Forced Adoption" site has many links to the truth & what a person who finds themselves in this situation can do....it is better read now! than to wait until it is to late!!
woman from mars Wrote:
The bottom line seems to be that the UK Social Services are financially rewarded for improving adoption statistics.
This site is helpful, informative & gives advice to anyone who might find themselves in a similar situation.Forced adoption.
It is a very long hard read, but well worth it.
This is a small snip from the site.
This site is helpful, informative & gives advice to anyone who might find themselves in a similar situation.Forced adoption.
It is a very long hard read, but well worth it.
This is a small snip from the site.
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Parents cannot complain either by revealing what happened in the secret family courts ,or by naming themselves or their children publicly without risking prison for contempt of the secret court.(Unlike more civilized countries such as Australia, New Zealand Canada, and Ireland where such secrecy in family courts does not exist) .
Another snip
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The judges in the secret family courts however inevitably respond by threatening parents with prison if they reveal to anybody details of proceedings in the secret family courts.The identity of the children must be protected at all costs they say with an intimidating judicial frown ! They follow up this stricture by authorising social services to advertise the unfortunate babies and toddlers as "adoption candidates" in magazines like "adoption UK" and on the internet on sites such as "www.ukkids.info "like pedigree dogs,with large colour photographs ,first names, dates of birth and character descriptions for easy identification by "the neighbours". These children are finally given away via "forced adoption" to anonymous strangers for the rest of their lives.
02-09-2008, 11:51 PM
i belive the term is "target of opportunity".
they know (read:think) that we won't fight back.
they know (read:think) that we won't fight back.
02-10-2008, 04:16 PM
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GOOD RIDDANCE to all social misfits especially mothers who resist our plans; We used to bully unmarried mothers into giving up their babies in their thousands but now that giving birth to little bastards seems to be respectable we have to trawl around to find mothers we can accuse of abuse or neglect even if we have to manufacture the evidence ourselves. It is all part of the job. ENJOY!
Ahhh... so true. Do you think its a prerequiste of becoming a social worker that you have to sell your soul to Satan?
http://www.forced-adoption.com/child-snatchers.asp
02-10-2008, 08:05 PM
ocampo Wrote:
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GOOD RIDDANCE to all social misfits especially mothers who resist our plans; We used to bully unmarried mothers into giving up their babies in their thousands but now that giving birth to little bastards seems to be respectable we have to trawl around to find mothers we can accuse of abuse or neglect even if we have to manufacture the evidence ourselves. It is all part of the job. ENJOY!
Ahhh... so true. Do you think its a prerequiste of becoming a social worker that you have to sell your soul to Satan?
http://www.forced-adoption.com/child-snatchers.asp
From my own experiences as a daughter, mother & Nurse I wouldn't ever trust one in any circumstances.
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Hundreds of criminals apply for care jobs
By Tom Pettifor
Daily Mirror May 20 2006
HUNDREDS of would-be social workers have serious criminal convictions.
Official figures list 375 fully qualified social workers being considered for official registration as having records for high or medium-risk offences.
They include murder, robbery, sex crimes, theft, drug dealing, possessing hard drugs, grievous bodily harm, domestic violence, fraud and serious driving offences.
By Tom Pettifor
Daily Mirror May 20 2006
HUNDREDS of would-be social workers have serious criminal convictions.
Official figures list 375 fully qualified social workers being considered for official registration as having records for high or medium-risk offences.
They include murder, robbery, sex crimes, theft, drug dealing, possessing hard drugs, grievous bodily harm, domestic violence, fraud and serious driving offences.
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A review is still going on of 700 cases in which bogus forensic scientist Gene Morrison gave evidence. Morrison, 48, from Manchester who was sentenced to five years for fraud in February, admitted he pretended to be an expert witness and bought his qualifications on the internet because it “seemed easier” than getting real ones.
For many of the genuinely qualified experts, legal work isa lucrative sideline, and if they are perceived to be able to “tailor” their evidence convincingly, the commissions keep flowing in. John Hemming, a Liberal Democrat MP campaigning about the misuse of medical evidence, says fees for a basic written opinion, based on reading through existing files, start at £4,000. If the expert concludes there is a case to answer, they attract court attendance fees as well.
“I have known experts get as much as £28,000 for one report,” said Hemming, who is lobbying for experts to be required to produce the scientific publications on which their opinion is based: “Unless we start using evidence-based evidence in court, we will get nowhere.”
For many of the genuinely qualified experts, legal work isa lucrative sideline, and if they are perceived to be able to “tailor” their evidence convincingly, the commissions keep flowing in. John Hemming, a Liberal Democrat MP campaigning about the misuse of medical evidence, says fees for a basic written opinion, based on reading through existing files, start at £4,000. If the expert concludes there is a case to answer, they attract court attendance fees as well.
“I have known experts get as much as £28,000 for one report,” said Hemming, who is lobbying for experts to be required to produce the scientific publications on which their opinion is based: “Unless we start using evidence-based evidence in court, we will get nowhere.”
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Most adopters seek BABIES not children so that far from taking children out of care the result was a frantic search by Kent Social Services for babies that could be adopted; More than 3000 babies under 1 year old every year for the last ten years have been snatched by ss and put into care prior to adoption by strangers. (The figure of 3000 per year rising to 3900 per year over a ten year period comes from the answer to a parliamentary question put by Tim Loughton MP in 2004 to the Minister for children.) Most of these were taken from mothers who desperately wanted to keep them but they stood no chance of prevailing against the onslaught of the mighty forces of social services...
The demand for new-born babies for adoption used to be satisfied by young girls who had babies out of wedlock. This is no longer a disgrace so that need now has to be satisfied as far as possible by making claims of abuse or neglect against mothers (in their past) that more often than not are false and unsubstantiated ,and using these as an excuse to take new born babies away to secret places for adoption by persons who are too ashamed to show their faces to the real parents
The demand for new-born babies for adoption used to be satisfied by young girls who had babies out of wedlock. This is no longer a disgrace so that need now has to be satisfied as far as possible by making claims of abuse or neglect against mothers (in their past) that more often than not are false and unsubstantiated ,and using these as an excuse to take new born babies away to secret places for adoption by persons who are too ashamed to show their faces to the real parents
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Kindness is practically never shown to these mothers and the only abuse to the baby comes from the social workers who deprive it of the bond formed with the mother at birth and prevent it from breast feeding which is the natural way to nourish any baby.The unfortunate mothers however are mostly condemned for life to produce babies not for themselves but to swell the adoption figures for the social services.
02-10-2008, 08:33 PM
Who was the *** ocampo quoted?
02-11-2008, 08:14 AM
Its irony Shamshir... look at the website WfM linked to.