6. “Thou shalt not kill.”
Yeah, we all knew that one long before the bible was written. And it would carry a bit more weight if the command wasn't coming from a god who is a wanton mass murderer.
"Thou shalt not kill" is not an accurate translation of the ancient Hebrew word "ratsakh," which is in the text of the oldest known texts of the 10 commandments. "Ratsakh" refers to premeditated murder. It does not mean killing in war or in the pursuit of justice. It doesn't mean you're not allowed to swat a mosquito that landed on your arm.
10. “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.”
That one makes no sense. No one in the history of the world ever kept that commandment. I don't care if somebody covets my stuff. It doesn't hurt me any.
It may not hurt you, but the coveter is hurt. In modern terms, you could say "don't try to keep up with the Joneses."
My Grandfather always said: Don't discuss about Religion, and that’s completely true, the religion is a matter of beliefs and each person even from the same religion has a different point of view about it, each one belief's are completely respectable, the important thing is that our beliefs don't push us to judge anybody else
I read a pamphlet on forgiveness. It does not mean welcome your rapist into your life. The rapist probably doesn't deserve to go near her. Forgiveness IS NOT AT THE COST OF SAFETY! It is at the cost of anger and hate, though.
Well said. Forgiveness is part of the healing process for the wronged.
I agree that your friend's father should be held responsible for his actions, and if he does not repent, he will be.
And of course her father thought women were like Eve, in the image of Eve, therefor seductive and irresistable. BS!!! He made it his daughters fault!!! And used the bible to do so.
I've written this in another thread already, but it applies here. The father made himself the victim so he could justify his evil deeds. The Bible is just his excuse. If he was a Muslim, he'd say the Qur'an told him to do X, Y, and Z. I'm not sure this is about Christianity as much as it is the mind of a deeply disturbed individual. Think about the 9/11 bombers - their radical version of Islam told them it was their duty to kill the infidels. Does this mean Islam in and of itself is bad? No. The same goes for Christianity.
In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince men that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy man living in a natural, intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, man is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.
-- George H Smith
The opinion of an atheist (George H Smith) to a Christian is equal to the opinion of Jerry Falwell to an atheist.
My Grandfather always said: Don't discuss about Religion, and that’s completely true, the religion is a matter of beliefs and each person even from the same religion has a different point of view about it, each one belief's are completely respectable, the important thing is that our beliefs don't push us to judge anybody else
Your Grandfather is wise. I've always said that it's pretty much pointless to talk about two particular subjects - politics and religion. Chances are you're not going to change anyone's opinion, even if the other person listens to you.
I think this thread was created to create a theological discussion of Christianity, but I'll admit it's virtually impossible to separate your personal feelings from a discussion about religion (or politics).
This is why I became a Green Christian. I got out of the theocractic dogma of evangelicals. and their hate agenda. I Practice my faith with love and I never judge. Because last time I check.
I'm goddamn sinner like everyone else
and oh GuessWho, Heres a stone throw at gay man. That seems like your agenda.
Oh if you don't catch my satire...look up Matthew. He who has not sinned cast the first stone
The opinion of an atheist (George H Smith) to a Christian is equal to the opinion of Jerry Falwell to an atheist.
In other words, you can't refute what he says. I understand.
Can you tutor me on how to be condescending? I seem to have missed that day.
On a serious note, how do you refute someone's opinion that's based on their interpretation of something?
For example, Jerry Falwell said “AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals, it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.” I'm not saying I agree with this, but it was his opinion. Prove him wrong. You can't. I can't either.
With both feet planted in the fundament - you're stuck; you can't see the others from any other view than you're own. That's the starting point of all wars. The rampant unability to acknowledge the beam in your own eye while ceaselessly pointing out the grand in the others eye (I really like this biblical metaphore).
Well said. The point has been proven by this thread.
This is why I became a Green Christian. I got out of the theocractic dogma of evangelicals. and their hate agenda. I Practice my faith with love and I never judge. Because last time I check.
I'm goddamn sinner like everyone else
and oh GuessWho, Heres a stone throw at gay man. That seems like your agenda.
Is that last paragraph not a judgement of GuessWho? I believe the "agenda" in this thread is a theological discussion of Christianity and homosexuality, and to try our best not to let personal feelings seep into it (which, like I said before, is virtually impossible given the topic).
^ Obviously you missed the satire
Also I like to know how much hebrew Guesswho has read, and I would point out that even King David was Bisexual <<
^ Obviously you missed the satire
Also I like to know how much hebrew Guesswho has read, and I would point out that even King David was Bisexual <<
I thought I had, but I read too much into it. Oh well. Not the first mistake I've made and certainly not the last.
Why do christians wear the cross? If Jesus does come back, the last thing he is going to want to see it millions of reminders of his death. And in the churches, there are sculptures of him on the cross with his thorny crown. Like he wants to be reminded of that! And the major christian denomination is roman catholic. The romans were the ones who killed him in the first place.
lol, I cant understand religion. Except for pastafarianism. That makes complete sense. Of course, I cant preach pastafarianism unless I am wearing full pirate gear. Yarrr.
But if Jesus did come back, would he want to see images of him dying in the churches?
You know, if christians stopped hating gay people then there would probably be a lot more christians.
Why do some people hate gay people anyway? I have never understood the reasoning behind that
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