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Jay Shaw Wrote:

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The reason Harvard's president was lambasted was because he didn't just say that there are fundamental differences between men and women, but rather that women simply weren't cut out for careers in engineering.


Do you have a link to a transcript of his comments? I am surprised that he would make a statement as sweeping as, "Women are not cut out for careers in engineering."


No, I don't.  I've seen quotes of it though (however they were posted in my college's newspaper, which isn't renown for being a wonderful newspaper).

Jay Shaw Wrote:

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Do you also claim that black people have special status in pre-dominatly white countries because it is illegal to discriminate against them on grounds of skin colour?


I believe that they have special status in the United States because there are discriminatory quotas in place that favor them over other ethnic groups for attaining employment and college admission. Honestly, I have no problem with being identified as a member of a minority group as long as special treatment isn't involved. I just don't want to be condescended to.


Just a note:  quotas don't exist because they have been ruled unconsitutional by the Supreme Court.  As have point systems.  Which means that Affirmative Action is alot harder to get away with now.

But really, talking about "reverse discrimination" kinda misses the point of affirmative action.  The idea behind it is what's called "equality of outcome."  The idea is that it is much harder for minorities to get into college due to adverse conditions.

Not sure if I agree with that philosophy or not, but just thought I'd throw that out because I like playing devil's advocate.

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