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Was Sherlock Holmes an Aspie-like character?  There are so many things about him that point toward it, although it seems his extraordinary problem solving abiility might point away from Asperger in some ways.  Otherwise...

His incredible logic, highly aloof/reserved nature, extraordinary gift for language(s) and academia, cold demeanor around people, no-holds-barred opinionation, intellectual personality, highly analytical mind... all seem to point toward a fictional Asperger.

Anyone else agree/disagree?

wilky

I don't know whether Holmes was an aspie. I don't even know If I am myself, but I have many traits, and have always known that I don't fit in to the rest of conventional society, have problems socially and a very strong need for routine, and my now astranged husband used to say to me:

"You're like effing Sherlock Holmes, you are." LOL
Yeah, I'd agree with that; the character of Sherlock Holmes seems to have a few aspie traits. He looks at the world through the eyes of a specialist--systematic, logical, deductive and dispassionate.

It's elementary.

wilky

"It's elementary" LOL

Yes it's elementary my dear quickduck.

wilky Wrote:
I don't know whether Holmes was an aspie. I don't even know If I am myself, but I have many traits, and have always known that I don't fit in to the rest of conventional society, have problems socially and a very strong need for routine, and my now astranged husband used to say to me:

"You're like effing Sherlock Holmes, you are." LOL


You don't know if you are yourself; but are you, at least, pretty sure of it?

He was aspie-like in some ways, but at the same time he was very good at reading people, so I don't know.

Lily_of_the_Field Wrote:
He was very good at reading people, so I don't know.

He didn't need any social skills training. So that one third of the triad of impairments he didn't have.

Aeolienne Wrote:

Lily_of_the_Field Wrote:
He was very good at reading people, so I don't know.

He didn't need any social skills training. So that one third of the triad of impairments he didn't have.


Yeah, but a lot of aspies learn to be able to "pass" for mostly normal by that age, so that doesn't make it impossible.
Of course, if we really wanted to know, we'd have to talk to Arthur Conan Doyle about it, and as we all know, that's not an option.
But it's nice to think about anyway.  Smile

wilky

Batman55 Wrote:

wilky Wrote:
I don't know whether Holmes was an aspie. I don't even know If I am myself, but I have many traits, and have always known that I don't fit in to the rest of conventional society, have problems socially and a very strong need for routine, and my now astranged husband used to say to me:

"You're like effing Sherlock Holmes, you are." LOL


You don't know if you are yourself; but are you, at least, pretty sure of it?


Hi Batman55,
To be honest I really don't know. I just know that I 'feel', and am  different from other people. Being 'social' does not come naturally to me and I get very anxious about this. I've often been told that I can be very blunt and that I "Tell it like it is", when I don't even know I'm doing this. I think I just prefer honesty whilst trying to avoid offence and would prefer others to treat me the same.
I am very unsettled by and almost scared of change or unexpected events, and feel I have to psych myself up well in advance.
I would never go for a diagnosis because I have a 5 year old autistic son, and I know of a case where a mother with Aspergers and her autistic child were watched very closely by the social services. I might be wrong but I think her child was put on the "at risk" register, and the mother killed herself.
I would never do anything like that, but I wouldn't want my parenting srutinized by the authorities.

I suppose I should add that I love Sherlock Holmes stories.  I also like the Sherlock Holmes adventure games on PC...  he is a former obsession of mine that flares up now and again.

Just rolled through "The Awakened" now I'm backtracking through "Case of the Silver Earring," although it's a very disjointed game.

"Serrated Scalpel," in its time, is something of a minor classic.

wilky Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

wilky Wrote:
I don't know whether Holmes was an aspie. I don't even know If I am myself, but I have many traits, and have always known that I don't fit in to the rest of conventional society, have problems socially and a very strong need for routine, and my now astranged husband used to say to me:

"You're like effing Sherlock Holmes, you are." LOL


You don't know if you are yourself; but are you, at least, pretty sure of it?


Hi Batman55,
To be honest I really don't know. I just know that I 'feel', and am  different from other people. Being 'social' does not come naturally to me and I get very anxious about this. I've often been told that I can be very blunt and that I "Tell it like it is", when I don't even know I'm doing this. I think I just prefer honesty whilst trying to avoid offence and would prefer others to treat me the same.
I am very unsettled by and almost scared of change or unexpected events, and feel I have to psych myself up well in advance.
I would never go for a diagnosis because I have a 5 year old autistic son, and I know of a case where a mother with Aspergers and her autistic child were watched very closely by the social services. I might be wrong but I think her child was put on the "at risk" register, and the mother killed herself.
I would never do anything like that, but I wouldn't want my parenting srutinized by the authorities.


If I were you I'd say "pretty sure," as you have a biological son who is autistic.  To me, that seems like a "clue," as we know even the scientific community has accepted a genetic/hereditary basis for autism.

I don't know why everyone thinks a diagnosis is the be all-end all for AS.  If you don't have a diagnosis, apparently, you don't have AS.

That reasoning doesn't work for me.  Personally.

rossco

Batman55 Wrote:

wilky Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

wilky Wrote:
I don't know whether Holmes was an aspie. I don't even know If I am myself, but I have many traits, and have always known that I don't fit in to the rest of conventional society, have problems socially and a very strong need for routine, and my now astranged husband used to say to me:

"You're like effing Sherlock Holmes, you are." LOL


You don't know if you are yourself; but are you, at least, pretty sure of it?


Hi Batman55,
To be honest I really don't know. I just know that I 'feel', and am  different from other people. Being 'social' does not come naturally to me and I get very anxious about this. I've often been told that I can be very blunt and that I "Tell it like it is", when I don't even know I'm doing this. I think I just prefer honesty whilst trying to avoid offence and would prefer others to treat me the same.
I am very unsettled by and almost scared of change or unexpected events, and feel I have to psych myself up well in advance.
I would never go for a diagnosis because I have a 5 year old autistic son, and I know of a case where a mother with Aspergers and her autistic child were watched very closely by the social services. I might be wrong but I think her child was put on the "at risk" register, and the mother killed herself.
I would never do anything like that, but I wouldn't want my parenting srutinized by the authorities.


If I were you I'd say "pretty sure," as you have a biological son who is autistic.  To me, that seems like a "clue," as we know even the scientific community has accepted a genetic/hereditary basis for autism.

I don't know why everyone thinks a diagnosis is the be all-end all for AS.  If you don't have a diagnosis, apparently, you don't have AS.

That reasoning doesn't work for me.  Personally.


Batman55 Does everyone think that a diagnosis is the be all-end for AS?

rossco Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

wilky Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

wilky Wrote:
I don't know whether Holmes was an aspie. I don't even know If I am myself, but I have many traits, and have always known that I don't fit in to the rest of conventional society, have problems socially and a very strong need for routine, and my now astranged husband used to say to me:

"You're like effing Sherlock Holmes, you are." LOL


You don't know if you are yourself; but are you, at least, pretty sure of it?


Hi Batman55,
To be honest I really don't know. I just know that I 'feel', and am  different from other people. Being 'social' does not come naturally to me and I get very anxious about this. I've often been told that I can be very blunt and that I "Tell it like it is", when I don't even know I'm doing this. I think I just prefer honesty whilst trying to avoid offence and would prefer others to treat me the same.
I am very unsettled by and almost scared of change or unexpected events, and feel I have to psych myself up well in advance.
I would never go for a diagnosis because I have a 5 year old autistic son, and I know of a case where a mother with Aspergers and her autistic child were watched very closely by the social services. I might be wrong but I think her child was put on the "at risk" register, and the mother killed herself.
I would never do anything like that, but I wouldn't want my parenting srutinized by the authorities.


If I were you I'd say "pretty sure," as you have a biological son who is autistic.  To me, that seems like a "clue," as we know even the scientific community has accepted a genetic/hereditary basis for autism.

I don't know why everyone thinks a diagnosis is the be all-end all for AS.  If you don't have a diagnosis, apparently, you don't have AS.

That reasoning doesn't work for me.  Personally.


Batman55 Does everyone think that a diagnosis is the be all-end for AS?


I suppose that was an overgeneralization.  My fault.

Aeolienne Wrote:

Lily_of_the_Field Wrote:
He was very good at reading people, so I don't know.

He didn't need any social skills training. So that one third of the triad of impairments he didn't have.


Personally I'm still not so sure how much faith to place in that so called "triad of impairments", anyway.

Yetti Wrote:
Yes he is.. so is Mr Bean. <G>


I'd agree there...Rowan Atkinson's creation Mr Bean incorporates many aspie-esk characteristics. I've been compared to bean myself.

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