All I know is that a lot of aspies soothe their minds by reading stories about him. And he is not for nothing subject in the 'you-are-probably-an-aspie-if' statement:
You are probably an aspie if you'd like to be Sherlock Holmes. (10 extra points if you are female.)
A search in the net is biased by results of 'The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time' by Mark Haddon, though. Read it for yourself...
Was Sherlock Holmes an Aspie-like character? There are so many things about him that point toward it, although it seems his extraordinary problem solving abiility might point away from Asperger in some ways. Otherwise...
His incredible logic, highly aloof/reserved nature, extraordinary gift for language(s) and academia, cold demeanor around people, no-holds-barred opinionation, intellectual personality, highly analytical mind... all seem to point toward a fictional Asperger.
Anyone else agree/disagree?
Yes he is.. so is Mr Bean. <G>
He was very good at reading people, so I don't know.
He didn't need any social skills training. So that one third of the triad of impairments he didn't have.
Personally I'm still not so sure how much faith to place in that so called "triad of impairments", anyway.
Aspies can read people if they do it scientifically... As a portrait artist, I study people... I can look at them while I sketch or paint them. Its like reading pets or plants...
Read people scientifically. I've been blamed of doing that. That I came to close with thinking and not using my emotions. But I can't come close another way.
Sherlock Holmes does look at other things than most people do. He deduces a lot out of that. I think its likely he's an HIQ Aspie.
Read people scientifically. I've been blamed of doing that. That I came to close with thinking and not using my emotions. But I can't come close another way.
Sherlock Holmes does look at other things than most people do. He deduces a lot out of that. I think its likely he's an HIQ Aspie.
HYke I have done that all my life and it served me well. If we do not have natural skills we can develop sociological/biological frames of references.. I am sure you know what I mean. Every person I meet.. Ihave developed since childhood an ability for a computer list to come up in my head and eye.. nad I observe.... and take my notes on human nature and emotion and come up with logical deductions
My best friend who is an aspie and scientist stated the younger scientists are too computer oriented and have lost their ability to "observe" which is a tool for scientists and artists.... to observe one had to get out in nature that include human social situations and learn to analyze... It takes me energy to do it when it is natural for NTs but it works! Its a great tool. If one sits behind the computer you cannot develop those skills.
Read about human behavior, observe, deduce... and you come up with a logical answer on the situations.. it is slow at first but as you do it all the time.. it is easier with practice.... and automatic (different from "natural".
There are many books on body language that are scientific oriented... Science channel specials on it... also old movies... where you learn about social behavior of people and can "watch".
I often love to go to a crowd or social scene where I am a stranger so I can "watch" people and learn.. Its an exercise we did in Theatre all the time.... Its has been part of my life and served me well in NT social settings...
Hay Yetti,
Can't send an e-mail, my explorer crashes when I try.
I think I know what you mean. I did get training to talk with people as a pastor. Learned a great deal there. And I already had picked up quite a lot as a kid. Also because I almost was raised like 7 o clock raises her child. I really got intense training in acting normal. Everything was explained if nescessary. It was my dad's way of raising us all.
So I learned to use some NT skills that come naturally, as it seems, with most of the people.
But its more than just that. I compensate my lack of automatic non verbal bonding with other skills as well.
Like I do pick up other non verbal things, The way a leg is used, how a neck is tense. As if my body picks up those things immediatly and tells me, If I had a posture like that I'd have a headacke.
Also I'm very sensitive to tension.
And I love texts (when they interest me, that is). Analizing them comes natural. And, studying, I did more and more of that. So I'm fast.
And then, there are all the details. Like someone is drinking very strong coffee. I notice those things. But I often can't tell you how the person looked.
But still, I'm good at it, but the understanding is always later. I have to process it first. (except for the headache part alas)
It can be fun though I admit that.
So I see a lot, and I can analize a lot. Probably Sherlock Holmes did that too. And he was a master in all the details of course. And a master in hyperfocusing at people or situations.
Taking this detour isn't a guarantee for social success. But its a good way of coping for me.
I think for Sherlock Holmes it is also true that he missed the automatic social nonverbal things. I can't recall he enjoyed social events and had friends except dr watson and maybe Irene Adler.
EXactly HYKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at my aspie support group meeting a young aspie learned to from his counselor at school who happened to be well trained with aspies... her exercises were like theatre... one girl learned it from being a model.... agian performance... Performance makes a comfortable stage to mimick them.. its like being an actor... once you learn you learn to observe them and copy.. it is FUN! Its a theatre exercise we use....... watch life and observe and mimck it.. it takes practice but it is fun like you say! AND it makes you successfull. I am working with this young man in my support group and we want o delveop this further to help those aspies who have not had the fortune to have such training.. You keep going! ^5
Yes yes yes to all you say! Keep it up and share with other aspies... we can do it
Hay Yetti,
Can't send an e-mail, my explorer crashes when I try.
I think I know what you mean. I did get training to talk with people as a pastor. Learned a great deal there. And I already had picked up quite a lot as a kid. Also because I almost was raised like 7 o clock raises her child. I really got intense training in acting normal. Everything was explained if nescessary. It was my dad's way of raising us all.
So I learned to use some NT skills that come naturally, as it seems, with most of the people.
But its more than just that. I compensate my lack of automatic non verbal bonding with other skills as well.
Like I do pick up other non verbal things, The way a leg is used, how a neck is tense. As if my body picks up those things immediatly and tells me, If I had a posture like that I'd have a headacke.
Also I'm very sensitive to tension.
And I love texts (when they interest me, that is). Analizing them comes natural. And, studying, I did more and more of that. So I'm fast.
And then, there are all the details. Like someone is drinking very strong coffee. I notice those things. But I often can't tell you how the person looked.
But still, I'm good at it, but the understanding is always later. I have to process it first. (except for the headache part alas)
It can be fun though I admit that.
So I see a lot, and I can analize a lot. Probably Sherlock Holmes did that too. And he was a master in all the details of course. And a master in hyperfocusing at people or situations.
Taking this detour isn't a guarantee for social success. But its a good way of coping for me.
I think for Sherlock Holmes it is also true that he missed the automatic social nonverbal things. I can't recall he enjoyed social events and had friends except dr watson and maybe Irene Adler.
Yes he is.. so is Mr Bean. <G>
I have observed Mr. Bean from a very close distance. I stood next to him, and walked at his side. He likes to eat fruit. He was having a break during TV recordings, outside. Guards everywhere but he mixed with the public. He had a double, someone dressed exactly like him, for safety reasons.
He is really strange. It is as if he doesn't see you, as if you don't exist. He doesn't look where he walks, you have to avoid a collision. This gave a very arrogant impression. At first sight, he is absolutely not a likeable person.
Yes he is.. so is Mr Bean. <G>
I'd agree there...Rowan Atkinson's creation Mr Bean incorporates many aspie-esk characteristics. I've been compared to bean myself.
Mr Bean is also everyman... He is loved! Even the Bean Mobile with it latch door lock and combination lock LOL... I can see Mr Bean getting married and being a father...