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And I didn't mean that with sarcsum either. *gets a headack* Ugh. The two parties, and how they so desperatly want to proove their point is.... annoying. All of your points have a logic to them and are in fact with interest of someone else in mind. What I mean by 'wronging' is in fact "your wrong" this, "your wrong" that attitude that just pisses me OFF, and makes a topic harder to come to terms than it needs to be!

That's why I SAID to act like adults, because it ain't adult like to do nothing but ignore someone's perspective and accuse them of something. Both sides did it at some point! Sure enough, he got attention. too much now in fact.

God... whatever! *turns and leaves* Every year I find myself in a thread like this with "let me proove the truth" going on. 'sigh' so tired....

I know this is going to sound harsh but Joeker and Timelord...we do not HAVE to be your cheer squad nor your army. You have an agenda with this man and believe somethings about him. That's ok. I think that you have already bought up all you need to say about him. You have ask us to "go beat him up". You have done this on several posts. Now you have your posse together why don't you go and do what you set out to do.
I personally think that the danger, power, influence and depths of evil you attribute to this guy and the site is completely blown out of proportion and will not assist in your efforts. At the same time I won't get in your way. You may be telling us you have to. The fact is we don't and we don't have to have the amount of emotional investment you have in the site.
If I never have to hear about Hating Autism or Foresam on this site again I will not be upset. Plenty of other far more useful subjects to share and discuss.

TimeLord...

Stop explaining things to everyone like you're God's gift to man! You put your point down already! Give people a break and stop! You are pissing me off! And, despite how I agreed with you and Joeker, you STILL keep explaining things to me like "lienda just doesn't grasp it". Oh my GOD!

Like I said, "what an ego". This is the last time, private mail and all, that I am going to tell you. I don't like being dragged down into debates and having to write so strongly like this. Thanks alot! >:{ The whole thread is now a hash off, because you think everyone else doesn't grasp worth a dam. [/i]

I still agree with you Joeker, and think you. Unfortunatly, this has already turned into a form of arguement because of the "I have to be right" problem that some people have.

[i]Lienda, with all due respect to your frustration - as Joeker said, what if a young man (14 or 15) trying to research his condition comes across this blog? I can safely predict..... I'm getting to the point of "What do I have to say to people to convince them of the danger this man poses to us?" I see it. (Pardon me... "getting" to the point of?)

(YOU are throwing it way out of preportion)

I pretty much covered this in what I addressed to Lienda, Rossco. I'll juat say, "sorry, but [u]you're wrong" and leave it at that.[i]

Did you "leave it at that" for us? Not really. that's my point. You explain, and explain regardless if either of us agree or not. Then you turn 108 degrees and go like "why are you getting mad at me?" Obsession...

Lienda,
Thanks for savng me the time and effort of responding to Timelord and Joeker.
I sat down this morning writing my comment and then thought, "Why am I wasting my energy on trying to reason with someone who is telling me what words they don't want me to use - "Obsession", whilst at the some time  saying this:

"What do I have to say to people to convince them of the danger this man poses to us?"

Well you could start by refraining from telling me not to use a particular word.
Quite honestly, I find a man who would report a parent to the authorities for child abuse for no good reason, far more of a "danger" than John Best.
Do you have any children yourself, Timelord?

Timelord,

You said:
"I pretty much covered this in what I addressed to Lienda, Rossco. I'll just say, "sorry, but you're wrong" and leave it at that."

A less inflamatory way of saying this could have been:
I pretty much covered this in what I addressed to Lienda, Rossco. I'll just say, "sorry, but

(sorry, brushed past the post reply button and my comment went in unfinished)
I'll continue,

A less inflamatory way of saying this could have been:
"I pretty much covered this in what I addressed to Lienda, Rossco. I'll just say, "sorry, but I think you're wrong" and leave it at that."
The "I think" makes all the difference.

*recieves a mental black eye*

Ouch!


Callista... sweety...... thanks for your input.  ***** the fact that I said pretty much the same thing way earlier.... owie..

Hi Lienda,
I'm sorry but I don't understand your last comment. I'm pretty knew to commenting on forums and I don't understand what you're reffering to or what an "owie" is.

Back off Timelord. You have made your point. You have come in here and shared YOUR opinion. Don't start criticising us for not sharing YOUR opinion. If we CHOOSE your zealous, evangelistic enthusiasm for this cause of YOURS, well and good, if not we have every right not to share it.
We do not have to share it. We do not have to join you. We are not deaf to your assertions we just do not share your views.  We have differing opinions and are entitled to it. If you wish to take your anti-Hating Autism supporters and rally against ForeSam, do it but do not give us a hard time for not supporting you.
I am sure we respect you have a strong view. I am sure you believe righteously in this issue. I am sure it impacts on your psyche that this man does what he does. I expect that respect to be returned from you. That is all I ask.

Timelord,
Who are you quoting and responding to in your last comment addressing me?

You said:

"The only people I am giving a "hard time" are those who don't believe this petition is really worth it and won't sign it even though they are clearly offended by it, or they take the incorrect attitude that Best isn't important."

You admit you are giving people a hard time and then go on to say:

"Beyond that - I'm not trying to force anyone. Apologies if anyone is feeling forced. That's not the intention."

You also said:

"The idea is to get people angry and want to act against him. And all that's needed to achieve that is the truth, which makes it easy to promote. It's just a shame (as I explained to Rossco) that not everyone can see that."

I think it's manipulative of you to try and "get people angry and want to act against him", and I think you've got some nerve implying that if people do not agree with you then they are not seeing the truth, which is really your idea of "the truth".
Lots of people here have signed your petition. Now why can't you credit those who haven't with the intelligence to make their own judgements and decisions.

Calista
Jenna

Let me apologise for my snide reaction early on to you.

Timelord,

Let me help you out with that email address:

kevleitch@gmail.com