I have read an article about love-shyness before and my understanding of the "male lesbian" is this - if the guy were a woman, he would be a lesbian, because he would still prefer women over men. As a guy, he doesn't like other guys, but prefers the company of women. He doesn't care about sports or anything aggressive or threatening. Basically, he doesn't like other men and if he were a woman, he still wouldn't like men. I hope this makes sense.
I have read an article about love-shyness before and my understanding of the "male lesbian" is this - if the guy were a woman, he would be a lesbian, because he would still prefer women over men. As a guy, he doesn't like other guys, but prefers the company of women. He doesn't care about sports or anything aggressive or threatening. Basically, he doesn't like other men and if he were a woman, he still wouldn't like men. I hope this makes sense.
True, but if any straight man became a women, yet retained their original personality and desires, they'd be a lesbian.
There's lots of men that don't like sports, and plenty of women that do.
I didn't mention this earlier, but as often as not-so-sports minded guys are put down as gay is a gross injustice. Actually, the article I had read shows such a guy as super-straight. Following are 2 links to the original article I have read, if you're interested:
http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/polepino/Ch...sbian.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/polepino/Ch...state.html
To use the word "gay" as an insult at all is a gross injustice. Being gay is not something bad.
you are 110% correct, but for the newest gen of young adults it applies to anything that is bad
and has little to do with homosexuality
I think you have a point - if you don't like someone, it is common among younger people to call that person gay or homosexual without really knowing. Before the term gay was used to mean homosexual instead of happy, it was a common thing to call an uncoordinated person a sissy, but it's not fair to make fun of an uncoordinated person anymore than it is fair to make fun of a blind or deaf person.
Every time I hear any of those words uttered, I stop the person and explain to them why they should not use it. It's worked fairly well and I managed to get my friends to stop using "gay" or "***."
Please don't think I am not doing that with my kids and their friends.
Maybe its b/c I am a mom, and so by default am totally clueless, that I can't say I've been as successful as you have been.
I didn't mean to imply anything. It definitely is difficult to change minds, especially rebellious young ones. I have no experience with being a parent, and never will, so I have no idea how I'd handle my own children.
Have you ever heard of a Male-Lesbian ?!?!
It has nothing to do with either homo or trans.
It is about hetero-males.
According to Gilmartin, many male-lesbians (who overlap with love-shy men) show the following patterns:
-often feel women are more privileged than men
-are in below-average physical shape as a group
-tend to be less interested in sports
-tend to be more interested in movies and music, and prefer watching
different types of movies from non-love-shy men
-place great, often disproportionate importance on physical beauty (especially facial beauty)
-are not as likely to be interested in male friendships
-are less patriotic
-are less religious
-16% of his sample were unemployed (p. 442)
-has experienced homelessness or poverty for the large part of their lives
-develop interest in females at an earlier age than usual, particularly in the third to fifth grade range
-often only want to have female children
-often have a hard time expressing their emotions
-are sometimes passive aggressive
-are melancholic
-often have had a physically difficult birth
-have low energy levels; show little interest in physical and sporting activities, as well as difficulty getting out of bed in the morning
-were usually quiet as infants, while non-love-shy men are rarely so
-often have tense, nervous, angry and/or two-faced mothers who -disallowed dates with girls
-often have no sisters, and rarely have more than one
-often are very serious
-often had no adults to turn to for emotional support as children, and continue to be that way as adults
-often felt they had little influence on family decisions as children
are easily upset
-have demanding parents who invade their privacy; thus have privacy problems to suffer
-often go through an excessive amount of psychological trauma, of which love-shyness can be the aftermath; many of the above items can be precursors of it
-parents were overprotective
-grew up in isolation
-like girls, but are afraid to talk to them because they're afraid of rejection
However, some have noted that those who are not love-shy may also exhibit a number of these patterns.
Findings which have not been found by Gilmartin are:
-they have fathers who have disrespectful curiousity about women that their sons interact with and vice versa
-hold their parents responsible because of some of the aforementioned limitations; and in turn ban their parents from meeting any future lover
-disown their parents after moving out from their home
Ya know< i have been thinking about this very thing. I've always felt like I was not straight, yet I was hetero. Now I get it, I'm a "male lesbian". Most of that stuff applies to me, although not all of it.
May favorite type of relationship/sex is with two females, and I prefer more aggressive female roles, loathing the general male dominance gender role that appeals to most people.
BLUE APPLIES TO ME _ RED DOES NOT_GREEN MEANS UNSURE:
-often feel women are more privileged than men
-are in below-average physical shape as a group
-tend to be less interested in sports
-tend to be more interested in movies and music, and prefer watching different types of movies from non-love-shy men
-place great, often disproportionate importance on physical beauty (especially facial beauty)
-are not as likely to be interested in male friendships
-are less patriotic
-are less religious
-16% of his sample were unemployed (p. 442)
-has experienced homelessness or poverty for the large part of their lives
-develop interest in females at an earlier age than usual, particularly in the third to fifth grade range
-often only want to have female children
-often have a hard time expressing their emotions
-are sometimes passive aggressive
-are melancholic
-often have had a physically difficult birth
-have low energy levels; show little interest in physical and sporting activities, as well as difficulty getting out of bed in the morning
-were usually quiet as infants, while non-love-shy men are rarely so
-often have tense, nervous, angry and/or two-faced mothers who disallowed dates with girls
-often have no sisters, and rarely have more than one
-often are very serious
-often had no adults to turn to for emotional support as children, and continue to be that way as adults
-often felt they had little influence on family decisions as children
are easily upset
-have demanding parents who invade their privacy; thus have privacy problems to suffer
-often go through an excessive amount of psychological trauma, of which love-shyness can be the aftermath; many of the above items can be precursors of it
-parents were overprotective
-grew up in isolation
-like girls, but are afraid to talk to them because they're afraid of rejection
Alrighty, I did some research. I finally found a proper term for this, although it applies to both sexes.
Androgyny
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgynous
This could also be considered Transgender, apparently.
Hi 2005 FY9, and
WELCOME!
Thank you for the research!
Thank you for the welcome! 
This topic was what caught my eye, and then led me to joining. Is there an intro board?
Erm...I'm not reading the responses...but did I NOT just post in the double jointed thread that Gumby is a male lesbian????
ROFL
It's not acceptable to use the word "fag," as it is deeply offensive to many.
...unless you are in England talking about cigarette butts...please do not use that word around me.
Thank you.
I think I fit the majority of these criteria, which could explain why I get along so well with lesbian women
According to Gilmartin, many male-lesbians (who overlap with love-shy men) show the following patterns:
I also feel most attracted to androgynous women, but that's probably largely because this type of women tends to think like men. I absolutely hate spending time with women who behave like typical women. My current girlfriend is into IT, grew up among 4 brothers and physically very strong.
I thought that it was just Asperger's Syndrome that was making me feel like this, but I guess this is something else.
My parents will kill me if they ever found out.
But I want to have a Manly Girlfriend so bad!
I feel like I want a Manly Girlfriend and call her a boyfriend whille I'll be the girlfriend. Almost like role-reversing.
An online friend of mine who's Lesbian wrote this
I like a lot of fetish stuff, but my biggest one is genderplay. I love cross-dressing, role-reversal, gender-benders, androgyny, transgenderism, transsexuality, all that sort of stuff.
There's nothing hotter to me than someone who can play with gender, particularly girls. If I had to choose one, my fetish would totally be andromimetophilia (an attraction to masculine women, women who imitate men, or to female-to-male transsexuals).
I would call myself a male lesbian since that makes more sense than bisexual or gay, but most of those traits don't fit me at all.