02-15-2005, 07:39 PM
03-31-2005, 04:56 PM
Makes me want a couple bottles of xanax.
03-31-2005, 07:51 PM
Perhaps rather than stealing benefit books, losing the house, and attempting suicide, it might have been more prudent for these parents simply to deny their daughter money that she didn't need in the first place? It's this sort of idiocy that reminds me why I'm a social recluse.
04-01-2005, 12:40 AM
This is very sad. Here in NZ there was a similar case in which the mother killed her daughter, not far from where i live. It is impossible to understand the whys of a situation without knowing all the information. The media write their stories to sell the papers. I did not know the girl, ( about 18 i think) or her mother. I do have some experience of behavioural difficulties and family upset. There are solutions to problems when the problem fits in a box. When tragedies like this occurs, simple answers like denying someone money is not going to help.
I have a great deal of sorrow for the parents who have a child they love dearly but who does not fit a box. One of the main problems seems to be when children grow up and no longer receive help and funding from support agencies designed for children. It is expected that we are adults and can make adult decisions when we reach a certain chronological age. For some of us this takes longer. For some it never happens and parents have to do the impossible with no support. Those parents who acted so desperately were victims of inflexible outdated impracticable rules. They should have had access to respite care for as long as they needed. THe transition between what the law defines as a child and an adult is blurry and probably different all over the world.
The only way to get answers to problems is to clearly define the problem and not to expect fast fixes.
becca :cry:
I have a great deal of sorrow for the parents who have a child they love dearly but who does not fit a box. One of the main problems seems to be when children grow up and no longer receive help and funding from support agencies designed for children. It is expected that we are adults and can make adult decisions when we reach a certain chronological age. For some of us this takes longer. For some it never happens and parents have to do the impossible with no support. Those parents who acted so desperately were victims of inflexible outdated impracticable rules. They should have had access to respite care for as long as they needed. THe transition between what the law defines as a child and an adult is blurry and probably different all over the world.
The only way to get answers to problems is to clearly define the problem and not to expect fast fixes.
becca :cry:
04-01-2005, 02:29 AM
It's this sort of idiocy that reminds me why I'm a social recluse.
Exactly.
Exactly.
04-01-2005, 02:36 PM
The parents should let her go. After all, she is 32, according to the article.
Those people are ignorant. People with Asperger's should not be "put down at birth". Everybody has a right to live. Anybody who thinks we should be aborted should have been aborted themselves. Besides, I have Asperger's and I hate shopping.
Besides, isn't convincing people to commit suicide illegal?
Those people are ignorant. People with Asperger's should not be "put down at birth". Everybody has a right to live. Anybody who thinks we should be aborted should have been aborted themselves. Besides, I have Asperger's and I hate shopping.
Besides, isn't convincing people to commit suicide illegal?
04-01-2005, 02:39 PM
"Besides, isn't convincing people to commit suicide illegal?"
If the daughter was so helpless as they suggest then really it would be murder.
If the daughter was so helpless as they suggest then really it would be murder.
04-23-2005, 08:36 PM
Another twist in this story, the mother has attempted suicide again, and the daughter says she does not have asperger's, that the mother is making a media campaign about it falsely -
A 65-year-old woman who survived a suicide pact with her husband has again tried ending her life.
Wendy Ainscow travelled from her home in Birmingham to Tenerife, where she and her husband took pain-killers before entering the sea last November.
Mrs Ainscow, originally from Prenton, Merseyside, was found on Tuesday close to where she first attempted suicide.
She claims her daughter, Lisa, has Asperger's Syndrome and went on huge spending sprees at their expense.
It is believed Mrs Ainscow left a suicide note at her flat in Birmingham.
She is reported to be under observation in hospital with unspecified injuries.
Her solicitor, David Kirwan, said: "This is an enormous cry for help. She has retraced the exact steps that she took with Bill."
Mrs Ainscow survived the first attempt last year, but Bill Ainscow, 75, was dead by the time the couple were picked up by a fishing boat.
'Very worried'
Lisa Ainscow denies having Asperger's Syndrome or being mentally ill.
Through her solicitor, Richard Nicholas, she said: "I was very worried about my mother and I'm absolutely relieved that she has been found."
Mr Nicholas said Mrs Ainscow was harming her daughter by creating a "media circus".
He said: "Lisa is not mentally ill, but she is a vulnerable adult. She is the unfortunate victim of a campaign of media manipulation by her mother.
'Sympathetic help needed'
"She has been under a great deal of stress, and that stress has been made worse by the media circus created by her mother, and others.
"Lisa still loves her mother very much and was devastated when she thought she may have killed herself."
Marjorie Wallace, Chief Executive of the mental health charity Sane told the BBC they had recently received a letter from Mrs Ainscow.
"She said that she could no longer take the loneliness of caring for her daughter Lisa and rebuilding her life, " she said.
"Wendy has been grateful for all the help Sane has given, but she needed and needs more than our helpline - sympathetic mental help care and treatment for both herself and her daughter."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engla...464245.stm
A 65-year-old woman who survived a suicide pact with her husband has again tried ending her life.
Wendy Ainscow travelled from her home in Birmingham to Tenerife, where she and her husband took pain-killers before entering the sea last November.
Mrs Ainscow, originally from Prenton, Merseyside, was found on Tuesday close to where she first attempted suicide.
She claims her daughter, Lisa, has Asperger's Syndrome and went on huge spending sprees at their expense.
It is believed Mrs Ainscow left a suicide note at her flat in Birmingham.
She is reported to be under observation in hospital with unspecified injuries.
Her solicitor, David Kirwan, said: "This is an enormous cry for help. She has retraced the exact steps that she took with Bill."
Mrs Ainscow survived the first attempt last year, but Bill Ainscow, 75, was dead by the time the couple were picked up by a fishing boat.
'Very worried'
Lisa Ainscow denies having Asperger's Syndrome or being mentally ill.
Through her solicitor, Richard Nicholas, she said: "I was very worried about my mother and I'm absolutely relieved that she has been found."
Mr Nicholas said Mrs Ainscow was harming her daughter by creating a "media circus".
He said: "Lisa is not mentally ill, but she is a vulnerable adult. She is the unfortunate victim of a campaign of media manipulation by her mother.
'Sympathetic help needed'
"She has been under a great deal of stress, and that stress has been made worse by the media circus created by her mother, and others.
"Lisa still loves her mother very much and was devastated when she thought she may have killed herself."
Marjorie Wallace, Chief Executive of the mental health charity Sane told the BBC they had recently received a letter from Mrs Ainscow.
"She said that she could no longer take the loneliness of caring for her daughter Lisa and rebuilding her life, " she said.
"Wendy has been grateful for all the help Sane has given, but she needed and needs more than our helpline - sympathetic mental help care and treatment for both herself and her daughter."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engla...464245.stm
04-24-2005, 11:25 AM
Amy Wrote:
Another twist in this story, the mother has attempted suicide again, and the daughter says she does not have asperger's, that the mother is making a media campaign about it falsely -
She always struck me far more as Borderline than anything else (shopping sprees, reckless actions, manipulative etc.)
Neither her nor her parents sound like they were mentally stable, though.
04-25-2005, 12:42 PM
Normally, I oppose abortion but it is too bad that the parents of this woman weren't aborted!! What absolute stupidity. Whether the daughter even has AS or not, why on earth did it come to this?
Jerry Newport
Jerry Newport
04-25-2005, 02:59 PM
jerrynewport Wrote:
Normally, I oppose abortion but it is too bad that the parents of this woman weren't aborted!! What absolute stupidity. Whether the daughter even has AS or not, why on earth did it come to this?
Whatever it is the daughter has wrong in her head, I am sure it is not too hard to figure out where she got it from. Neither parent seemed to be mentally stable, including her father who stole extortionate amounts of money from his employers 'to pay for his daughter's shopping sprees' :roll:
04-29-2005, 08:14 PM
That part could have been a scam for him to try and dodge prison, people have children who are severely ill with cancer and require expensive treatment abroad as a last hope, and they still dont steal from employers, so to pay for a shopping habit seems a poor excuse.