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I made this 3D model as an illustration, where I'm trying to "model" my mental image of the connection between the mind, (the psychological, thoughts, ideas, memory, feelings..), the neural system, (The "container", the brain, nerves, chemistry..), and the 5 senses, (the receptors).

The blue bulb is the mind, the red and blue bulb-holder, is the neural system, and the receptors of the 5 senses is the thing with "fingers".

So how do I get the right treatment?
If my problems is an mental issue and not a neural issue. What if I get medicine instead of therapy?
How can I approach the doctor, therapist or psychiatrist to ensure the right treatment?
There's no proven medical treatment of autism today, but there's lots of unproven, sometimes proved to be quackery.
... by the way, AFF generally dislike the thought of "curing" autism.

erkolos Wrote:
... by the way, AFF generally dislike the thought of "curing" autism.

I don't believe in curing autism!

The point is:
» ..if some of my problems isn't related to autism, but to trauma in childhood.
Then I would prefer to be "cured" and learn to cope with it by the help of things like cognitive therapy.
» "..if some of my problems is related to autism, and NOT trauma in childhood.
Then cognitive therapy and other forms of therapy would probably do more damage then good!

And I don't want that!!

My previous "old fashioned" doctor, would probably say that HFA/aspergers is new fashion types of diagnosis, that he don't believe in.

Mjølner Wrote:

I made this 3D model as an illustration, where I'm trying to "model" my mental image of the connection between the mind, (the psychological, thoughts, ideas, memory, feelings..), the neural system, (The "container", the brain, nerves, chemistry..), and the 5 senses, (the receptors).

The blue bulb is the mind, the red and blue bulb-holder, is the neural system, and the receptors of the 5 senses is the thing with "fingers".

So how do I get the right treatment?
If my problems is an mental issue and not a neural issue. What if I get medicine instead of therapy?
How can I approach the doctor, therapist or psychiatrist to ensure the right treatment?


There is no proven difference between neurology/brain and mind, so in a way every mental issue is a neural one. That said I think I understand what you mean. What if your problem is mental illness instead of neurological variation? If that's the question, I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer.

Simen Wrote:

Mjølner Wrote:

I made this 3D model as an illustration, where I'm trying to "model" my mental image of the connection between the mind, (the psychological, thoughts, ideas, memory, feelings..), the neural system, (The "container", the brain, nerves, chemistry..), and the 5 senses, (the receptors).

The blue bulb is the mind, the red and blue bulb-holder, is the neural system, and the receptors of the 5 senses is the thing with "fingers".

So how do I get the right treatment?
If my problems is an mental issue and not a neural issue. What if I get medicine instead of therapy?
How can I approach the doctor, therapist or psychiatrist to ensure the right treatment?


There is no proven difference between neurology/brain and mind, so in a way every mental issue is a neural one. That said I think I understand what you mean. What if your problem is mental illness instead of neurological variation? If that's the question, I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer.

Argh!? Sad The mind is probably a to wast expression to be used here.

I believe there is a clear difference between the "hardware" and the information it contains. If the illness is some kind of "bug" then it can probably be treated with new perspectives and/or new information, and not by manipulating the "hardware".

If we say..:
"the mind" = "the information",
"the neural system" = "the main hardware and the storage device", and
"the receptors" = "the keyboard, the webcamera...,
do we get a better picture then? (The output/s is not a part of this model).

I am trying to have an as simple model of this as possible, and I hope my model is consistent enough as a "work sheet".

I wonder why the big emphasis on cognitive therapy these days?

tenaciouscj Wrote:
I wonder why the big emphasis on cognitive therapy these days?

I can only answer from my perspective.
I have "studied" cognitive therapy, and find it to be a very good and logical way of discovering and changing wrong thoughts into right thoughts.
I have actually used similar ways to change my own behavior for many years, but I didn't know it had a name, so when i first red books about cognitive therapy  I was amazed by the way they used "my own techniques".
...but I don't believe in curing any kind of syndrome.
That's why I'm trying to figure out exactly what's "wrong with me", because i believe any kind of therapy, would be potentially damaging, if my problems isn't caused wrong thoughts.

Mjølner Wrote:
...but I don't believe in curing any kind of syndrome.

Careful, syndrome means alot of things. PDDs or ASDs maybe?

Sry, for the derail.

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