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I guess it would take some time to learn to communicate correctly with Simen.
I don't know if would ever prefer talking to an aspie rather than a neurotypical. Anyone who wants to be part of a gang that I am most likely not in will often try to fool me.

I have experienced both men and women trying to fool me, but that would probably be within my class. I think I can trust both adult women and men.

When talking to my parents I know that saying anything about my personal life would be to my mom. As saying it to my dad could lead to immediate consequences, but dad knows more so he would often be preferable when talking about something eg scientific.

Natalie Wrote:
I don't think it's wise to have presuppositions that one group of people is more trustworthy than another, be them men or women, Aspie or NT. I determine trustworthiness on an individual basis.


Exactly, you can't generalize when it comes to that.

Ziyaret Wrote:
I trust Aspies over NTs for the reasons mentioned in prior posts. However, there are certain situations where I tend to trust men more than women. Specifically when it comes to interpersonal relationships. The reason being that women have a greater tendency than men to be dishonest and manipulative with people they are close to and/or involved with. Men are generally more direct and up front about their intentions.


Men generally do not want to spend the mental resources weaving elaborate lies, it makes their lives complicated.  Usually if they are dishonest the do so in a very direct way.  Which IMHO is a kind of honesty, because they know that you know how guys work.  

Girls love to control how people perceive them, their image is everything, guys not so much.  Girls lie to people to control their reality,  only guys in position of power IMHO act more womanish to get ahead.

But as always culture has a lot to do with it, I'd say men and women are generally more dishonest today then in past ages.

wilky

Simen Wrote:
I trust no one.

No, seriously, I trust people, not genders or labels.


I agree. I trust individual people who have shown themselves to be trust worthy, regardless of any labels they may or may not have.

rossco

What a horrible subject thread.
OK truth. I trust men over women. I trust a man to keep his word and to back me up more than I do women.
I don't trust women much at all and have had good reason to learn not to trust them
HOWEVER sometimes you get a lady come into your life that makes you examine your own bias and insecurities.
Takes a special kind of lady though. I am lucky

quickduck

My general policy is to trust everyone--be they male or female; but only to share secrets or personal stuff with those people who’ve proven themselves trust worthy over a long period.  

I find that people with good social skills are better at being deceptive--and so tend to be deceptive more often. In everyday life women tend to have better social skills than men and so I tend to trust them less.

But aspie ladies are very trust worthy---more trustworthy than NT men--and at least as trustworthy as aspie men.

I feel that aspies as a group tend to be very truth worthy.

quickduck

rossco Wrote:
What a horrible subject thread.
OK truth. I trust men over women. I trust a man to keep his word and to back me up more than I do women.
I don't trust women much at all and have had good reason to learn not to trust them
HOWEVER sometimes you get a lady come into your life that makes you examine your own bias and insecurities.
Takes a special kind of lady though. I am lucky

Wilky is well deserving of your trust. Smile
100% honest, honourable and dependable…someone you can have faith in--someone to rekindling your faith in humanity.

wilky

quickduck Wrote:

rossco Wrote:
What a horrible subject thread.
OK truth. I trust men over women. I trust a man to keep his word and to back me up more than I do women.
I don't trust women much at all and have had good reason to learn not to trust them
HOWEVER sometimes you get a lady come into your life that makes you examine your own bias and insecurities.
Takes a special kind of lady though. I am lucky

Wilky is well deserving of your trust. Smile
100% honest, honourable and dependable…someone you can have faith in--someone to rekindling your faith in humanity.


Thank you quickduck, I really don't deserve such kind words. (BTW, your cheque's in the post).

And to Rossco. You know I think they broke the mold when they made you. I'm the lucky one.

quickduck

wilky Wrote:
Thank you quickduck, I really don't deserve such kind words. (BTW, your cheque's in the post).

I also except, cash, postal orders, and all major credit cards.

Magic beans are acceptable--but only if they’re magic.

And for that wonderful--fabulous--ongoing ’Positive Reinforcement Experience’ may I suggest our monthly direct debit scheme.

Friendly, truthful, ego-boosting PM’s delivered daily to you inbox for only £9.99 a month (No student discount).

wilky

quickduck Wrote:

wilky Wrote:
Thank you quickduck, I really don't deserve such kind words. (BTW, your cheque's in the post).

I also except, cash, postal orders, and all major credit cards.

Magic beans are acceptable--but only if they’re magic.

And for that wonderful--fabulous--ongoing ’Positive Reinforcement Experience’ may I suggest our monthly direct debit scheme.

Friendly, truthful, ego-boosting PM’s delivered daily to you inbox for only £9.99 a month (No student discount).


I'm very tempted by your "Positive Reinforcement Experience" deal. I wonder, do you offer a discount for OAP's? Big Grin

quickduck

wilky Wrote:

quickduck Wrote:

wilky Wrote:
Thank you quickduck, I really don't deserve such kind words. (BTW, your cheque's in the post).

I also except, cash, postal orders, and all major credit cards.

Magic beans are acceptable--but only if they’re magic.

And for that wonderful--fabulous--ongoing ’Positive Reinforcement Experience’ may I suggest our monthly direct debit scheme.

Friendly, truthful, ego-boosting PM’s delivered daily to you inbox for only £9.99 a month (No student discount).


I'm very tempted by your "Positive Reinforcement Experience" deal. I wonder, do you offer a discount for OAP's? Big Grin


Oh yes, the ‘Positive Reinforcement Experience’ is offered free of charge to OAP’s.

Obviously, Amazing, People…that is.

I think you qualify lol. Smile

wilky

quickduck Wrote:

wilky Wrote:

quickduck Wrote:

wilky Wrote:
Thank you quickduck, I really don't deserve such kind words. (BTW, your cheque's in the post).

I also except, cash, postal orders, and all major credit cards.

Magic beans are acceptable--but only if they’re magic.

And for that wonderful--fabulous--ongoing ’Positive Reinforcement Experience’ may I suggest our monthly direct debit scheme.

Friendly, truthful, ego-boosting PM’s delivered daily to you inbox for only £9.99 a month (No student discount).


I'm very tempted by your "Positive Reinforcement Experience" deal. I wonder, do you offer a discount for OAP's? Big Grin


Oh yes, the ‘Positive Reinforcement Experience’ is offered free of charge to OAP’s.

Obviously, Amazing, People…that is.

I think you qualify lol. Smile


That's very generous! When can I expect my next 'fix' ? Big Grin

rossco

Like the need for change. We can all insulate ourselves from it and we probably don't like what change does to environment, schedules, routines or lifestyle. HOWEVER some change is good. Some change you must force on yourself to get to the good things in life.

If someone is HFA or AS they best learn to toughen up because life is not easy and if you have ineptitudes or differences that place you at a societal disadvantage anyhow, you have to have some determination and big pool of mental and emotional reserve to draw from. Likely people will take advantage of you, likely you will be bullied. Likely people won't understand you. At the end of the day you are responsible for the efforts you make to make your life as best as you can for you. You best be able to earn to handle your difficulties.

I find in "real life" and here, I am quick to PM someone if they are down, defend my friends, listen to problems, share anything (personal or not) that someone can use to help or heal them. Yes sometimes this has been thrown back in my face (here and in real life) but hey I am a big boy. I know that not all people are like that and at least I have identified another oxygen-thief when this happens.

rossco

woman from mars Wrote:

rossco Wrote:


If someone is HFA or AS they best learn to toughen up because life is not easy and if you have ineptitudes or differences that place you at a societal disadvantage anyhow, you have to have some determination and big pool of mental and emotional reserve to draw from. Likely people will take advantage of you, likely you will be bullied. Likely people won't understand you. At the end of the day you are responsible for the efforts you make to make your life as best as you can for you. You best be able to earn to handle your difficulties.

Please explain how to 'toughen up', I have tried & tried, it must be part of my 'make up', because I am unable to do this & I wish to God I could.


How do I? How do you? I am not sure my way is your way. I have a strong morality which is personal to me. I am not saying it is in line with societal morality it is mine and personal. I uphold that and I feel OK in myself. I also allow myself to strive to better myself. I also accept I am going to fail sometimes but strive anyhow. I can face myself in the mirror. I am never going to be the nicest guy in the world or the best looking or the youngest, fittest, smartest, most decent, or what have you but I can be the best I can be - and live with myself

Also I have not exactly had a blessed life and had to take a few hits emotional, mental and physical along the way. If you can't stick up for yourself how are people going to respect you? Simplistic I know. That's just me

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