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Some with this affliction are found to be brilliant, absent minded, eccentric, socially enept, sarcastic, and sometimes negative, there are a lot more symptoms of this disorder which makes it much harder to detect without a diagnosis from a professional.

I might be smart-arsed, scatter-brained old kook, but at least I know how to spell!

In the chat rules it says they will not tolerate arguing and you can't say $#@%, so that excludes me for sure.
I think this qualifies as a rotten autism web site at least because I can never get any of the sidebar links to work. Is it a subscription only site?
http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/
One thing that I find so thoroughly irksome about these autism web sites is the emotive language, the kind of language that conjures up mental images of someone wringing out their hanky. Does this particularly apply to autism, or are all web sites about kiddie disorders similarly overwrought?
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autism and certain other neurodegenerative diseases can be fully and permanently reversed

Since when was autism a degenerative disease? Are we all getting more autistic every year? I guess that means one day I will disappear up my own ...  And I still haven't established contact with any person who has been fully "cured" of autism. Such people exist they say ....


On a different subject, there is one thing that really bothers me about the ASpar web site, that flogs the idea that aspie parents are incompetent parents, and that aspie parents are exactly the same as the web site owner's aspie mother (she obviously has issues).

The thing that bothers me about this site is the apparent credibility that this Judy Singer woman has within Australian academia, the AS community and the disability rights community. Have a look here and you will see what I mean http://www.aspar.klattu .com.au/aspjs.htm

Have I gotten too cynical, or is it true that there are stacks of people out there who mingle with autistics, may even be one themself, make a career out of autism, but despite all this they just go ahead and dump on us anyway?

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Judy has some AS traits, but like most children of parents with AS, cannot determine whether they are inherited or learned.


AS can be LEARNED? Then there's hope for us all!

It just goes to prove that one does not need to be an NT to be an autiphobe.

When you have more than one child you discover how little influence family culture and values has on a child's personality and choice of activities, becuse they all grow up to be very different individuals from exactly the same family. We never taught any of our kids to watch tripe on TV such as "Neighbours" or "American Idol", in fact we heap shit on the kid when one of our children tunes in to this garbage, but it doesn't stop them watching! One of our kids occassionally copies AS stuff from another one of their siblings, but they do a very unconvincing imitation. At my time of life I've concluded that people grow up to be the people that they were programmed to be. Whether or not they hate themselves for it is determined by the way the person chooses to think about themselves, and the way society treats them.

If Singer has a child and a parent with AS, as is stated on the web site, she must have the gene, so I don't know why she clings to the idea that her AS traits are learned (and presumably unlearnable). She's got the gene and got some of the traits. She just needs to ask the Wizard of Oz for the courage to face the truth.
V.P. Ramachandran wrote a chapter about the temporal lobes and limbic bits, and their connection with religious fanaticism and asexuality in his book "Phantoms in the brain" (not sure about the title). Richard Cytowic and other synaesthesia experts link temporal lobe epilepsy with belief in supernatural stuff and UFO abduction experiences. Pretty wild stuff.
Some people at AI are tossing about the idea that the ASpar web site is villification of a group of people (autistic parents), and might possibly be running foul of Australia's villification laws. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know.

Whadaya think?

http://www.aspar.klattu .com.au/
Sites that are set up for people in some kind of relationship with people with AS seem to be totally unconcerned or oblivious of the fact that the NT partner in an AS/ NT marriage can definitely be "the bad guy" or "the less able partner". I guess it would be naive of me to expect more of these people. Crooks, illiterates and drunks do hook themselves up to aspies. I guess they hope to acquire virtue or skills by association.
The big problem with most aspie parents is that most of them don't know they are autistic. The big problems with NT parents of aspie kids can be not realising how different their child is to themself, or simply not liking their aspie child, and therefore having little motivation to do any more than lip service as a parent to that child.

I think the worst kinds of parents must be parents who have no marriage or a marriage that stinks, and that is why I think the worst kind of parents for any kid (in terms of neurotype) could be one aspie parent married to one neurotypical parent. One or both are likely to be in a state of clinical depression at any point of time, and conflict and divorce are likely to be issues affecting the family. Marriage is the foundation of family life. If you don't have a good one, don't have kids This condition does not exclude any neurotype from being a parent, only certain individuals.
I just stumbled across this site after dooing a Google on the search terms "famous aspies". This bit of @#&* "Famous Loners" came up at number 6 on the results page;
http:// http://www.the antisocialclub.com/asc_page_023.htm (broken link)

I haven't spent much time looking at this site (which is all the time of mine that it deserves), but it seems to mix up the quite different conditions of shyness, autism/AS and social anxiety disorder into one negative stereotype. At first glance it looks like a positive point of view, but the more I read the stupider it looked.

The visual presentation of this site reminds me a lot of Oddizm's really excellent web site. I think this site has copied her style. I think the people who created this site might have borrowed ideas from autistic community sites.
The home page of the Californian curebie group featured a slide show of artsy, poignant photos of young boys on their own, in places like the beach etc. It's one of the most pervasive cliches of curebie groups' media representations of autistics, as isolated and forlorn little boys "lost in their own world" in photogenic surroundings. This kind of stereotyping of autistics banishes adult and female autistics from public consciousness, while at the same time narrowing-down the image of the typical autistic so that it does not include those people who are quite possibly on the spectrum themselves (parents of autistics), who are the ones creating these images.
Has anyone posted about this before? It's from the "Uncyclopedia" a satire of the Wikipedia. It's supposed to be funny and offensive, but it's just stupid because it describes NT sociopathic traits as AS traits, and that's just plain dumb.

I do think they might be right about the Germans and the Japs, though.

http:// uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Asperger's_Syndrome
I was half joking, half not joking. There's something odd about the Germans, there's no denying that.
In Australia we have a type of pumpkin known as "Japs", and I bet that name is a reference to our Asian friends. The Japanese have been called many worse things.
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