02-12-2005, 12:01 AM
02-21-2005, 02:46 PM
I gave have roundly criticised Attwood for the piece of writing of his that Aston cited in this article. He did a lot of damage to our image in that interview.
He must have done a lot of damage to his own reputation amongst the Autistic community and their supporters?
He must have done a lot of damage to his own reputation amongst the Autistic community and their supporters?
03-01-2005, 02:29 PM
Maxine Aston Wrote:
Living with Asperger's
Jul 11, 2002
Research supported by the National Autistic Society into the intimate relationships of couples where one partner is affected by Asperger's shows that men with the condition tend to choose partners who are maternal, strong, and with nurturing qualities, often older than themselves. Women are attracted to men who appear to be kind, gentle and slightly immature, and who flatter with obsessive attention.
Jul 11, 2002
Research supported by the National Autistic Society into the intimate relationships of couples where one partner is affected by Asperger's shows that men with the condition tend to choose partners who are maternal, strong, and with nurturing qualities, often older than themselves. Women are attracted to men who appear to be kind, gentle and slightly immature, and who flatter with obsessive attention.
Kind and gentle: no problem with either of those (but who would be attracted to a man who was unkind and insensitive?)
But immature? No way would I find that attractive. I never liked to see adults behaving immaturely when I was a child (that's why I disliked clowns). My main reasons for giving up on the AS support groups in Windsor and Exeter was because they were dominated by certain immature, annoying individuals - so much for Einstein being a typical Aspie!
And as for obsessive attention - not sure what is meant by this. I personally have no wish to be showered with fripperies and knick-knacks. Can't understand why girls are supposed to get all excited about a bloke owning a particular model of car.
03-11-2005, 01:41 AM
Speaking in tongues :shock: SO what's special about that? Hell, I do that every morning before the caffeine kicks in!!! :twisted:
03-13-2005, 12:07 PM
Wolfy Wrote:
Check this one.
You just have to read their chat rules.
http://www.support4hope .com/autism/aspergers.htm
You just have to read their chat rules.
http://www.support4hope .com/autism/aspergers.htm
I've read them, but I can't see how they make it a rotten site? Could you quote something?
03-13-2005, 05:26 PM
From: http://www.support4hope .com/autism/aspergers.htm
Asperger's Syndrome is a term that is used for a child or an adult that has some features of autism but does not have the actual disorder.
:roll:
In a socially interactive situation, many people who have Asperger's have problems when it comes to keeping eye contact with a person they are talking to. For example, they may say hello to you and then look away in another direction, and you may get the idea that they are not talking to you, that maybe they are talking to someone else, this is what is known as a "gaze avoidance."
This is virtually impossible in Brighton :lol:
/weak pun
Asperger's Syndrome is a term that is used for a child or an adult that has some features of autism but does not have the actual disorder.
:roll:
In a socially interactive situation, many people who have Asperger's have problems when it comes to keeping eye contact with a person they are talking to. For example, they may say hello to you and then look away in another direction, and you may get the idea that they are not talking to you, that maybe they are talking to someone else, this is what is known as a "gaze avoidance."
This is virtually impossible in Brighton :lol:
/weak pun
03-14-2005, 10:40 PM
Yeah, there is some serious over-ruling there. I did notice that...
03-15-2005, 07:00 AM
because I can never get any of the sidebar links to work
Works fine for me :?
What are the parameters for what qualifies as a rotten site?
Also, what right will we have to complain about someone elses harsh opinion of this site if we are slagging off others?
Works fine for me :?
What are the parameters for what qualifies as a rotten site?
Also, what right will we have to complain about someone elses harsh opinion of this site if we are slagging off others?
03-24-2005, 10:36 PM
Greetings,
This dosent really qualify as an autism site but it pissed me off anyway :-
http://www.socialanxietyins titute.org/asperger.html
This dosent really qualify as an autism site but it pissed me off anyway :-
http://www.socialanxietyins titute.org/asperger.html
03-24-2005, 10:53 PM
I object to the fact that it says anxiety is not a part of AS. This is backed up by all the hyperactive amygdala stuff. Plus - name me one person here who hasnt experienced severe anxiety as a result of their difficulties. Name me 5 people here who havent expereinced SOCIAL anxiety as described on that page as a result of their difficulties.
03-25-2005, 01:46 AM
Greetings,
I'm sure everyone agrees with those last 2 replies - I know I do.
And those people are selling books on the subject. It just underlines the amount of stupidity thats out there - and people are making money from it and peddling their false information to unsuspecting people.
I'm sure everyone agrees with those last 2 replies - I know I do.
And those people are selling books on the subject. It just underlines the amount of stupidity thats out there - and people are making money from it and peddling their false information to unsuspecting people.
03-25-2005, 11:51 PM
Noetic Wrote:
Anxiety is common but it is not an integral part of it and not required for diagnosis, so there is nothing wrong with stating that while Social Anxiety is defined by anxiety, AS is not.
I didnt say anything about AS being defined by anxiety. My argument is that anxiety is a PART of AS. It is a 'secondary effect' if you will. Only a tiny handful dont experience it. That site implies that all people with AS dont experience anxiety in social situations. If one was to take that information at face value then they would misdiagnose about 99% of AS cases as social anxiety.
That is my argument. I really dont knwo how you could have missed my point.
03-26-2005, 11:48 AM
"If a person experiences undue and irrational anxiety, then the condition is not likely to be Asperger's."
That is like saying that people with AS dont have anxiety. I have to go slightly out of context to explain this but lets take a look at OCD. Every single person with AS has some traits of OCD. Some have the full blown condition, others do not, but all have the same underlying obsessive nature due to the monotropic tendancies of the autistic brain. What happens when you prevent a person from carrying out some ritual behaviour? They get agitated and anxious. This would be considered undue and irrational by an NT. Does this anxiety mean they are not likely to have AS?
That is like saying that people with AS dont have anxiety. I have to go slightly out of context to explain this but lets take a look at OCD. Every single person with AS has some traits of OCD. Some have the full blown condition, others do not, but all have the same underlying obsessive nature due to the monotropic tendancies of the autistic brain. What happens when you prevent a person from carrying out some ritual behaviour? They get agitated and anxious. This would be considered undue and irrational by an NT. Does this anxiety mean they are not likely to have AS?
03-26-2005, 08:42 PM
Greetings,
Having read over the site again, I have to accept that it is more a matter of the wording than what they are actually saying.
As a mater of interest, the very first time I went to a therapist, his initial reaction was social anxiety - that was before I was fully aware of AS. All of that was swept aside though when I started having panic attacks - so the emphasis was purely on controlling the general anxiety. The psychiatrist I saw a while ago only looked at the OCD. He admitted that he had no understanding of AS or ADHD and said he would welcome information - so the next time I went I took him a whole pile of stuff. At that point he seemed to have completely forgotten what he said before and seemed surprised that I dared to question his supreme knowledge (and didnt even look at any of the stuff I took him). Basically what they do is look at one set of symptoms and completely ignore the others (the therapist paid no attention to the OCD which completely astonished me).
So I do judge people harshly on these things.
Having read over the site again, I have to accept that it is more a matter of the wording than what they are actually saying.
As a mater of interest, the very first time I went to a therapist, his initial reaction was social anxiety - that was before I was fully aware of AS. All of that was swept aside though when I started having panic attacks - so the emphasis was purely on controlling the general anxiety. The psychiatrist I saw a while ago only looked at the OCD. He admitted that he had no understanding of AS or ADHD and said he would welcome information - so the next time I went I took him a whole pile of stuff. At that point he seemed to have completely forgotten what he said before and seemed surprised that I dared to question his supreme knowledge (and didnt even look at any of the stuff I took him). Basically what they do is look at one set of symptoms and completely ignore the others (the therapist paid no attention to the OCD which completely astonished me).
So I do judge people harshly on these things.
06-12-2005, 11:54 PM
Greetings,
I was going to say theres not alot wrong with that site but then I noticed the $125 an hour.
I think one of the factors which breeds hostility is the difference on both sides of the Atlantic. In America everything seems to be financially oriented, no NHS etc. and that offends some sensibilities over here.
But still - $125 an hour?? Thats INSANE :shock: :shock: :shock:
I was going to say theres not alot wrong with that site but then I noticed the $125 an hour.
I think one of the factors which breeds hostility is the difference on both sides of the Atlantic. In America everything seems to be financially oriented, no NHS etc. and that offends some sensibilities over here.
But still - $125 an hour?? Thats INSANE :shock: :shock: :shock: