Aspies For Freedom

Sorry Amy, all I can do is laugh my cock off!

At what, Gwynfryn, the poor kitty, or the idea of having a ranting thread? Somehow this has already turned into a silly thread, I am not sure I feel like ranting here any more now  :-( .

Ahh It's official the day someone does a good careear aptitude test for autistics and others... I will nominate them for the noble prize for Peace for their services to stopping people getting extremely irritated over them I.E ME!!

Had to sit in a 1hr 15 minute set of tests which accomplished zero. Wonder if the results I get will match up anyway. The only good one so far is the Morrsiby test done by ISCO

Hey, sunchild, check out http://www.nomoretests.org

P.S. Our state standardized tests are called SOLs!  :lol:

The most verbally intelligent people taking the new SAT will be at a relative disadvantage compared to where they stood with the old SAT. This is because a subjective essay section has been added to the test. While they are still likely to obtain high scores, the most verbally astute students will not necessarily score the highest score available in a subjective verbal examination.

I encountered this problem when taking the GMAT. While I consistently score in the 99th percentile on objective standardized tests, I only scored 5.5 out of 6 points on the GMAT's essay section, which placed me somewhere around the 92nd percentile for that section. I was not pleased, but at least the essay portion of the GMAT did not count toward the real GMAT score. This will not be the case for the new SAT.

Opps, Sunchild, the correct link is: http://www.nomoretests.com

Anyways, here's my rant. I am REALLY SICK of this one person on another site! Just to indicate why, read this (in a topic discussing whether autism is a difference, disability, or illness) :
"I fail to see any real disabilities that could possibly face someone with AS. Are we supposed to feel sorry for the poor dears because their problems are caused by their inherent spasticness rather than normal incompetencies that plague the best of us? Please. Autism poses problems to those who are severely affected; those who suffer nothing more than AS are whiny bitches if they think they have real problems, because their problems are no different than those that other people suffer. "

She is OBNOXIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!

While her statements are a bit tactless, I am in general agreement with the message she is trying to convey. Any difficulties associated with Asperger's Syndrome are insignificant when compared with those associated with classical autism. In very many respects, my ability to function effectively in life is far less inhibited by Asperger's Syndrome than it would be if I were significantly less intelligent and neurotypical.

Most people have some areas in life where they struggle. Developing and maintaining social relationships happens to be problematic for most people with Asperger's Syndrome. However, people with AS also tend to be quite gifted at performing logical tasks, and our obsessive nature can lead to great expertise in subjects of interest.

Our social difficulties are undoubtedly compounded further by the fact that so few people have Asperger's Syndrome. The alienation that results from this unfortunate phenomenon can hardly be described as a general disability, though. Rather, it is merely a biproduct of being forced to live in an unfavorable environment. If a human were forced to live on the moon, he would be significantly impaired due to the lack of oxygen. This does not mean that the human is inherently disabled, though.

Although I feel AS is essentially a "difference", there are some people with AS who are disabled by society's inability to accept them. I really hate when people declare an entire group of people a name like "whiny bitches", especially when they don't know anything at all about that group! This person certainly wouldn't like if I declared "All neurotypicals are snobs" even if I think so. It's just really obnoxious to come into a middle of a discussion *repeatly* to interrupt with insulting most of the people in the discussion. Somebody else on the site pointing out she might be egging me on to attempt to get me banned for saying something stupid. (I've already gotten 1 out of three "strikes" for having an outburst) This person practically stalks me, she follows *every* post I make in the extended discussion and psychology boards. Here's her reply to my reply that "This is not a place to call groups of people "Whiny Bitches". Go away if you want to do that." :
"I wasn't aiming that remark at anyone in particular. It was a generalisation towards people in general--not just those with AS--who are under the impression that just because they have something rather minor wrong with them means thy're completely different from the rest of the world and that life's so hard. They're not, and it isn't. AS is such a mild disorder, people who "suffer" from it are essentially normal. They're perfectly capable of leading normal, happy lives, and if they can't find a way to obtain it, that's THEIR fault, not AS'. "

Okay...my parents are really getting on my nerves. I'm atheist and have been as far as I can remember. Hence, I don't believe in a deity or god. My parents decided all of a sudden that I must say Grace or I will be grounded. Well, obviously, I refused. I'm not going to thank a god I don't believe in order to satisfy some perverse need of theirs! This is completely unfair...

I don't think persistent low mood is a part of AS. I do know that aspies often have depression in addition to AS. I'm not sure what you meant in your post, Tenaciouscj.

Mish's rant for the day:

Golf... I hate it, it's a sport for those that have very little brain power that like saying it relaxes them from stress but come home more stressed after chasing that darn little while ball around the grass... Yes I'm widowed currently today by a golfer... Ron's out on the golf course and stuck me and the boys at home while he goes out with his brother and father.

And 2nd part to the rank, why does he have to act like such a self-centered, selfish, annoying jerk most days? Why can't he realize that he's only making himself look like an ass and not making anyone else out that way? He's always nitpicking at my AS traits and all on a daily basis. It's getting annoying.

To clear matters up, I was labeled "low functioning" for reasons even I don't understand.  I found it in the papers describing me in early adolescence (at a time when I was diagnosed verbally with autism and on paper got something like 8 or 9 PDD-NOS diagnoses that year, the doctor used -NOS diagnoses for everything officially for particular reasons -- and this wasn't a diagnosis he arrived at just by looking at me, it was obvious from the history my parents gave, and then looking at me just confirmed it).  It wasn't about IQ scores, but I don't know what it was about.  Aside from that I've never seen a functioning label for me on paper at all, and I don't believe in the distinction.  (Especially as most labeled LFA would technically be considered HFA if tested differently, by the IQ criteria anyway.)  AFF only allows a person to pick HFA/AS or LFA, which really in fact irritates me, I'd pick none of them and scrap the entire explanation if I could.  When forced to choose I chose the only one I ever saw written down in my records.  But I'd rather not be forced to choose.  I'm autistic.  My functioning is different in different areas and has varied so much over time that I would rather if I had to give a functioning level go with what Phil Schwarz once suggested, "functioning level not otherwise specified" -- but in one way or another that applies to all of us.

I understand and can sympathize with some arguments I've seen for making the distinction in a purely sociological sense (as in what is done to which people), but again there I experience both sides of that sociology, so I would not know which one to say.  I'd rather there was just a thing for "autistic" without having to pick.  Since I did pick, I gave my explanation.  And I don't go in for elitism or bigotry towards people with intellectual disabilities either.

Joeker:  I don't side with Phil, I thought I made clear that I told him that I didn't want him to write what he wrote on his site, really didn't want to be involved, didn't like it, etc, but that it was his website.  I meant that.  I don't like what he wrote.  He asked me for corrections on something about me, I told him what he wrote was not entirely accurate but that given that (a) I didn't want the thing written anyway, and (b) he wasn't going to have the space to go into detail, I really didn't care.  I didn't offer comment on the rest of the stuff except that I personally disapproved of it.  There is no way on earth I'm "siding with him" on that stuff, nor on his IQ comments (or anyone else's equivalent IQ comments, or anti-LFA comments), and I thought I'd been extremely clear about that.  And the only thing else I said on this thread (which was only clarifying why I'd chosen the descriptors I've chosen on AFF out of the limited options) was neither in agreement with him nor with anyone else in particular.

So, I don't approve of that page he made (as I said on whatever thread you brought that up on, as well as privately to him).

I don't approve of elitism (as I said on this thread).

I don't approve of bad attitudes toward people with intellectual disabilities (as I said on this thread).

I don't approve of endless public mud-slinging matches between people (you and he both do that, although to be fair I've been dragged into it from time to time myself so can't claim total innocence, but I disapprove even of my own actions in that regard and would take them back if I could).

And I don't see how I'm siding with him.  Or with you.  By saying these things.  I both approve and disapprove of things both of you do.  Oh well.

Oh, and I neither agree with Timelord's assessment that I am "HFA", nor my doctor's inexplicable assessment that I am "LFA".  For further clarification.  Perhaps by saying I didn't agree with my doctor's assessment, you assumed I meant I agreed with Timelord.  I don't.  

I don't believe IQ measures functioning level (but that is one of the things researchers do most often claim to measure it by).  I was just saying "By those standards... the following is true," etc.  That would be like saying that IQ scores measured functioning in people with cerebral palsy.  Total mismatched something-or-other.  I don't even believe in IQ scores to begin with, or if I do believe in them I want to know how I can be tested three times and never get scores within less than 35 points of each other.

But that's off the point.  I was just seeing my name popping up in this thread and trying to explain why I ended up classified that way for AFF.  I wasn't really paying close attention to who was saying what.  I don't do that very well.  But if you read what I said carefully I doubt you'll find agreement with Timelord's stance on LFA in there, at all.

I approve and disapprove of different actions of both of you.  I haven't gone into depth with either of you about which, so either of you saying "This person supports my actions in ______ area" would be unlikely to be accurate except by chance.  But yeah.  I didn't like that page.