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Well, here goes. Rant-time.

Okay, so I have several blogs, and I blog frequently. I came into disagreement with a Blogger called Fore Sam, and we spent time arguing. Whatever. I begin blogging seriously, and mainly on issues of Fores from a more neutral perspective, and so on. I blog for some time, and then I get sick and tired of Fore, so I start a petition. One of Fore's foes, by the name of Phil, drops by, and starts commenting. I begin to move on in my material, and I meet and speak with a woman going by th Screen-name of Droopy. I chat with her, and life goes on. There was a spot of anger and arguing here at AFF which was Mod resolved, and I blog about it, and Phil is of course a supporter of the opposite side to Droopy. He gets annoyed, my blog starts to heat up. Then he gets really riled over a small thing, and blows up at Lisa a regular to my blog and to Fore's, someone I understand and can speak to without fighting with.
Phil makes this disgusting comment about Droopy: "Why do you think she was booted from AFF - aside from being a SELF CONFESSED LFA! (who BTW are INHERENTLY not intelligent - unlike HFA and Aspergers!)"
Lisa points out that this would imply that a point she made earlier about Aspies having higher IQs might lead to a mood that would make some Aspies a kind of Aspie Supremist.
He rebutted with: "It's called stating facts! That doesn't make us SUPREMISISTS! It makes us protective of a certain environment. It's not like we're blocking off everything you know! Of course, you wouldn't have any idea."
He begins calling her a B***h, and is freaking out at her for a spelling mistake, which he had spelt correctly and considered a correction(right above here, actually, the: He rebutted withSmile. She hadn't noticed this, and Phil acted quite rude to her. Here's exactly what he said, having quoted her question:

<i>What CORRECT word?</i>
You know, bitch!!

I told him several times to stop his profanity, to cut back,and when he didn't, I became cross.
Lisa told me about an article on his wiki, and I checked it out. It was utterly vile. He placed Droopy in the category of the world's biggest idiots, said she was paranoid, lied about her, and accuses her of "painting ASDs in a bad light," and speaks down his nse at her, that it's her problem that she has a reason to believe what he does, and that it's ging to drive her insane.
I said this, exactly over this libelous article:

"This is just daft. I expected better from a full-grown man, Phil.
Keep insults out of an in-the-air issue.
Just because you believe that Baggs is in the right, and that I believe that Droopy is in the right, does not make them in the right until it is proven. And so far, you feel that Baggs is, and I feel Droopy is. Stalemate.
Nothing left to do but what humas do best, then, is there?"

Suffice to say, Phil then banned me from the Wiki, demanded an apology, and then left in a petulant, angry snit.

When offered a chance on my blog, as friends, to not only make up, but to end conflicts and even humble myself on his wiki... Well, read for yourself.
http://philsworld.wiki-site.com/index.ph...ppointment

Suffice to say, since the I've been trying to draw him into talking, and have lost my temper with him.
I am not in any way in the wrong for this, but for his offense over me holding an opposing point of view which he would not allow me to have, was the spark of the conflict. I did not edit his article, but simply expressed my shock and disappointment over it. And now, there is nothng for this but for the nightmare it's becoming. He has since tried to have my ISP cut me, and has blamed me, lied about me, besmirched the name of two ladies, and openly taunts me and ridicules my honest and sincere words.
He proves his hypocrisy by attacking Lisa over her comment about him obsessing over Fore, saying it's a flagrant swipe at an Aspie trait, which he then goes on to use it as a confirmation of being an Aspie. Read it here yourself.

"In a flagrant swipe at an Aspie trait, which by the way (if we are talking about FIXATIONS) are football and wrestling. In that order. Not Fore Sam and his son. Along with trying to involve me in Fore Sam's golf obsession - which by the way proves he's one of us!"

He has been issuing forth things which he ensures I cannot respond to, his Wiki posts, and a Private Message here with me on his Ignore list.
He has called ME a Bully, he has threatened my Internet Access, and he has been behaving inappropriately since before I became involved. It was his behaviour which actually got me involved in the first place.

I hope this Rant Page sure hold's it's mettle, because I sure don't want to see my open, transparent, and fully justified Rant removed, since this time there is absolutely no profanity, and just simple, hard fact.
Please, let this stay, let my voice be heard, and let me be free from the baseless accuations of someone who has stabbed me in the back, and is currently using me and my contributions to further his Wiki.
*sigh* You're just being fesicious.
I promised the Mods I would not pursue this here, and I won't. If you want it continued, then we shall adjourn to here:
http://blogofmanytrades.blogspot.com/

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Now let's let it drop.


Here at least. I made a promise, and I'll not renege on it.
I hope they understand this instance.
I want this gone from here, as do you, the Mods, and I will respect that, and get it off here.
I sincerely hope I am not banned over this post, but if I am, then I shall accept the permanent Ban.
I hope that this will no longer interupt the AFF community.

I think it's such a bitter irony, in that he thinks very highly of Amanda, and yet so lowly of her diagnosis. Non-verbal does not make non-human. Not only are they thought to be without intellect by certan groups of NTs, but now even by Aspies? Shameful.
Gloats aren't statements of fact.
And facts are that LFA doesn't mean "inherently unintelligent." On a community like AFF, one could only hope you'd give these individuals the respect they deserve, as any other person.

I would thank Timelord to cease doing what I have had a temporary ban over.
Either that, or he be issued a warning as I was, and appropriate measures would be to follow.
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Hyke, I wish you luck and success with your problems, and hope you think of something you and your kids can go and do that you can have fun on. Best wishes, Hyke. Smile

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I wish you would think very hard before you type anymore of your poisonous attitude and opinions.

"To correct everyone's misconception - the DSM-IV clearly requires intelligence as a guide to functioning level."

A guide. A diagnosis does not make, as stated before, a stereotype. There are many guides to determining this, but they are not set in stone, where it is safe to assume that LFA equates "inherently unintelligent."
You "correct misconceptions" and then go on to describe what you think of an issue that is between Droopy and Amanda, not Droopy and Timelord. It is not your call to issue those statements, as this is none of your business, and had Amanda dealt with it in a way that was not desigend to attract support on the web, it should have been so. But it has been told to many people, spread across blogs, and is a part of your wiki. There is cause enough for Droopy to issue a complaint, yet, surprisingly, Amanda has her story all set out, and many, many people eager to jump up to support her, because she's told them her side of things, and only they know what else.
You classify Droopy, you say that she is LFA like she's unable to think, and make assumptions, as well as place a bias on something which should be seen as it is, a legal issue, and not something that can be determined by a self-important Wikier.

You talk of Droopy like she's "broken" as an Adult LFA, and that is an opinion that is not shared on AFF.

As for false accusations, I do believe that you say them best. Re-read your "More AS Disappointment, and start crossing things out if you feel that false accusations don't help debate.

Abuend: I'm just shocked that you can side with Phil. Have you read his Wiki, Phils' World? Have you read his article on Droopy? Have you seen what he has said on my blog, mistaking ignorance for belligerence, mistaking warnings for threats? How can you not be offended that he has been, in your name, calling a woman a disgusting profanity over a dozen times(over a SPELLING MISTAKE!), naming Droopy as one of the absolute stupidest people in the world, as a crazy woman, as being inherently unintelligent, and how can you abide the elitist bigotry he has said?
I lied not, and I have given his words unedited. He thinks of LFAs as making "Autistics" look bad, that Droopy, being LFA, is automatically unintelligent, and he has made no effort to show that he does not assume that all LFAs, unless otherwise proven, are intelligent.

I hate how this has simply re-inflamed here, and that it is not dying down as it should have.

Mods, I apologize deeply for having to break my promise to you, Gareth, and I will understand if I am banned permanently over this. But I will not stand for what Phil is doing, for his joy at my temporary ban, his insults towards people here, and his refusal to take this off of AFF. This may be pretty much my last post here, but I want you all to know, I have enjoyed my time here, and thank you all for having me.
Sorry about all this.

Best wishes,
~Joe

I wrote that in the mistaken belief that you were in support of Phils actions, as he implied in comments. All I really wished to find was that either that you didn't know about his actions, or that you disapproved or were without opinion on this. I didn't want a war, all I wanted was either making up or an amicable resolution, but he threw my words back in my face with his article.

As far as the LFA/HFA assessments go, it really doesn't matter to me which. You're still a person.

tenaciouscj Wrote:
Thanks Nyanchan, I was just feeling a bit lonely and depressed. Smile


****A BIG HUG****



quickduck Wrote:
Beautiful

Did you find the pot of gold?

No, not the kind of gold that is the element.RolleyesSadBig GrinBig Grin

The important kind...many timesCoolBig GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig Grin

Mahler5 Wrote:

couldbecousin Wrote:
Why do teachers think they can motivate students with that "You have disappointed me" line? Sad You are in school to learn, not to please others.  She should have explained to you what kind of answer she expected, maybe given you an example of a better answer.  


I completely agree. Too bad erkolos cannot say back to her that she has disappointed him because her teaching methods are not very motivating Smile
Your assignment has nothing to do with the personal feelings of that teacher. I would be very frustrated and angry too, erkolos.

As far as dancing in gym class? ( or just gym class in general..) I simply refused to do it-I found it degrading. All the trouble that refusing to attend gym class cost me was totally worth it in my opinion.  Eventually I agreed to write a report on something gym-related to make up for the time I missed.
( not quite sure if I actually wrote the report though.)  Smile

As an adult, I only dance with my son at home and we make up all our own moves and laugh and have fun. I never go out to "formal dances" and never will. Teaching it to me in school was going to be a waste of time, and I knew it even then.

I am now much better equipped to laugh at myself if I do something "wrong" or not the way others can easily do them-and I can still retain self-respect.  

erkolos, I wonder if you have at your school -the choice to do a "special project" for school credit.
I believe that in many ways you ARE gifted, and not being challenged in the right areas. ..you could research autism, or something else you are interested in.. etc. Is this possible? Is there anyone there that could be an advocate for you?

I have no real tips on motivating people to do homework- Often I left everything to the last minute Smile
I did find that if I did homework at a certain time, every day, I usually got it done. I would have to have breaks as I couldn't sit and focus too long on all that boredom. Interestingly, my breaks were to play the piano-where I could sit and focus for a LONG time Smile
  I would try to do the worst boring, or more difficult assignments first so that when I was fed up, or tired, or really bored-the easiest homework assignments were left to do-so it wasn't as difficult to finish it all up..

I am sorry you had a bad day at school erkolos..

and sorry for the long post. Seems I am ranting slightly too! Smile



Nothing wrong with a good rant, it's much better than keeping it in to fester.

I also did my homework at the last minute, usually on the school bus.

We were forced to do gym / games ( in navy blue knickers in public !!! ) the memory makes me shudder.ugh!!

I can't dance to save my life...not able to mirror & no coordination.

Erkolos I'm also very sorry that you had a bad day & you certainly appear to be gifted when writing about many subjects on this forum.
I wonder why this teacher , ( who is also the one who is very keen for you to associate with others in uncomfortable situations ) speaks ever so slowly in class? Does she speak this way normally or only for classes?

Im fucking tired of people calling me a sped!
Mothers.... *sigh*.

Your mother sounds like mine itchms!  I refer to her as 'an elemental force of nature that is essentially unstopable'.  To rail against her is to be like King Kinute asking the tide to stop coming in.  She can reduce me to a zombie within two or three hours when she's on a mission....

However - the tide also goes out again - like your mother, and maybe you'll appreciate what she's done after she's goneSmile))  Real boats rock my friend.  Hold on tight and wait for the water to calm down again.

Best,

Alectrum.
Ps - my mum chills right out after a hug.  Wink

Lucie1 Wrote:
wow - great strategy alectrum. I can't hug my mum.


The first time I hugged my mum I almost regretted it - but the virtue of an aspie thinking they are on the right track kept me from backing off.  Sometimes she would hug me back.  Sometimes she'd get angry.  She is pretty aspie herself.  Hugging was a violation of the rules and something I both wanted and feared - and it was the same for her.

You can hug your mum Lucie.  It's allowed.  Mum's hug their daughters.  Daughters hug their mums.  If they're on the spectrum then the big *sqeezy* hugs with pressure are best, and they will do your mum the power of good as well as yourself.

Best,

A.

Lucie1 Wrote:
I remember feeling so incredibly disappointed on a couple of occassions when I realised my dad wasn't going to die - he pulled through.
I don't know what happened with your mum ..... my feeling is that making contact might help healing (broken relationships like that cause pain, no matter how much we block it) --- of course my thoughts and feelings may be well, well off the mark. They are only based on my experiences, not yours.

Lucie1 Wrote:
I remember feeling so incredibly disappointed on a couple of occassions when I realised my dad wasn't going to die - he pulled through.
I don't know what happened with your mum ..... my feeling is that making contact might help healing (broken relationships like that cause pain, no matter how much we block it) --- of course my thoughts and feelings may be well, well off the mark. They are only based on my experiences, not yours.


The horrible thing about an aspie memory is that you can recall every bad thing they said to you... and maybe that wouldn't have been so bad an you could forgive them if they hadn't of said it (and done it) more than once.  

The best thing about an aspie memory is that you can recall every bad thing they said to you... and the things they said more than once because they were screwed up.

Other people don't get to realise how truely screw up their parents were unless they had a memory like an aspie - and that memory allows us to be free.  We don't have to be the opposite of our parents (because that will bring us into deep water too).  We don't have to be the same.  We can see the patterns we don't like and chose more positive ways of dealing with negative times.

Through a fluke of nature - we are free.  As intense as every memory second may be throughout our learning process - ultimately we abide - and fly.

alectrum Wrote:
The horrible thing about an aspie memory is that you can recall every bad thing they said to you... and maybe that wouldn't have been so bad an you could forgive them if they hadn't of said it (and done it) more than once.  

The best thing about an aspie memory is that you can recall every bad thing they said to you... and the things they said more than once because they were screwed up.

Other people don't get to realise how truely screw up their parents were unless they had a memory like an aspie - and that memory allows us to be free.  We don't have to be the opposite of our parents (because that will bring us into deep water too).  We don't have to be the same.  We can see the patterns we don't like and chose more positive ways of dealing with negative times.

Through a fluke of nature - we are free.  As intense as every memory second may be throughout our learning process - ultimately we abide - and fly.


That was exceedingly well put...thank you.Smile

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