07-20-2007, 02:07 PM
Interesting topic.
To consider culture is to consider shared symbolic communication. Shared mechanisms for understanding and organizing experiences. It has been said that language is the carrier of culture for just this reason. The symbols we can readily access not only allow us to organize and understand our world, they also constrain the ways in which we are able to organize and understand our world. Goodness knows that I often have ideas/insights that I cannot articulate.
As I've dabbled across the many threads at this forum I actually had already been considering that in the worthy quest for a cohesive autistic identity there may be a tendency to lose sight of fact that within every subgroup there is normal variance. Curves within curves ad infinitum.
I suppose it could feel frustrating for a person who has spent life in the outlying 2% to find a group where they might be considered "normal" and then discover that they are perhaps still in the outlying 2% or the subgroup. Please remember that "normal" is a statistical fiction. I don't know what it means to be a normal autistic any more than I know what it means to be a normal person. Sounds like nonsense to me. But normality and culture are different things altogether.
Culture is shared symbols, shared meanings. I think of it like concentric circles -- a really big one is human culture, next I'd be in Western culture, then US culture, university culture and military culture sort of overlap, and on until right close in with the fewest members is familial culture. Yes, there are shared symbols and meanings just amongst the family. Inside jokes are a good example.
I don't know about Autistic culture, I've only been here a couple of days. This site is the first I've seen that posits such a thing. It almost feels like asking whether there is such a thing as a cake while the ingredients are being mixed. There was no such thing as Hippie culture 50 years ago and now the symbols are pretty much universal.
What is it? What do you want it to be?
To consider culture is to consider shared symbolic communication. Shared mechanisms for understanding and organizing experiences. It has been said that language is the carrier of culture for just this reason. The symbols we can readily access not only allow us to organize and understand our world, they also constrain the ways in which we are able to organize and understand our world. Goodness knows that I often have ideas/insights that I cannot articulate.
As I've dabbled across the many threads at this forum I actually had already been considering that in the worthy quest for a cohesive autistic identity there may be a tendency to lose sight of fact that within every subgroup there is normal variance. Curves within curves ad infinitum.
I suppose it could feel frustrating for a person who has spent life in the outlying 2% to find a group where they might be considered "normal" and then discover that they are perhaps still in the outlying 2% or the subgroup. Please remember that "normal" is a statistical fiction. I don't know what it means to be a normal autistic any more than I know what it means to be a normal person. Sounds like nonsense to me. But normality and culture are different things altogether.
Culture is shared symbols, shared meanings. I think of it like concentric circles -- a really big one is human culture, next I'd be in Western culture, then US culture, university culture and military culture sort of overlap, and on until right close in with the fewest members is familial culture. Yes, there are shared symbols and meanings just amongst the family. Inside jokes are a good example.
I don't know about Autistic culture, I've only been here a couple of days. This site is the first I've seen that posits such a thing. It almost feels like asking whether there is such a thing as a cake while the ingredients are being mixed. There was no such thing as Hippie culture 50 years ago and now the symbols are pretty much universal.
What is it? What do you want it to be?