Aspies For Freedom

i've never met an AS who bullies, yet

Not intentionally maybe - but my older daughter (As) reacts pretty sharply to my younger NT (mostly) daughter if she's engaging in behaviour that she (the elder one) thinks might overload her.

At the same time my elder daughter can be ver protective and the younger one can also be protective and she is very assertive in trying to organise the adults around her.

I think it may be as hard for an NT person to fit into an AS family as vice versa, and I try and allow for that and teach both daughters tolerance.

Max the Bear Wrote:

The media LOVES to assure the people of privileged status that THEY are the victims. What bullshit.

It's really all one pattern. "The powerful are automatically virtuous." What changes is the definition of "virtuous". When "virtuous" meant "favored by God", the powerful were "divinely ordained". In the 18th through early 190th centuries, when "virtuous" meant "favored by God and nature", the powerful were both "divinely ordained" and "better stock". For the short time when Social Darwinism was embraced by the dominant power structure, the powerful were "more fit". Now, since victimhood is the ultimate virtue, the powerful are "the real victims".

But it's all just like the tale related in Mismeasure of Man. The power structure simply redefines the same statement to fit whatever the measure of "value" might be.

it does sound bulling. and bulling or any other bad behavior is not excusable , certainly not by any medical or psychological condition.

Noetic Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

It wasn't really bullying though, it was more just about feeling like I was a bigshot, and coming off that way was easier among younger kids for obvious reasons. I believe I did this as a reaction to the bullying I got from kids my own age.

That's what bullying is about, someone has low self esteem and tries to make themselves feel important/strong etc. by bullying those who are weaker.

That's the comforting lie we tell ourselves. Real research has discovered the opposite. Bullies tend to have extremely HIGH self-esteem and just use their bullying as an amusement.

Batman55 Wrote:

I think they might be very confident people, Dogbrain, but I think you need to have a deficit in self-esteem (which is not the same thing as confidence) to be NPD or a bully, in the vast majority of cases.

Why do people keep insisting on finding excuses to feel sorry for bullies? Oh, the poor widdle boy, he just has low self-esteem. They have HIGH self-esteem and what they really need is to be severely taken down a couple of million pegs.

Noetic Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

I think they might be very confident people, Dogbrain, but I think you need to have a deficit in self-esteem (which is not the same thing as confidence) to be NPD or a bully, in the vast majority of cases.

Oh, ignore my post before this one in that case! I see you've already posted what I wanted to say more eloquently than I had anyway! And yes from what I have read about NPD what you wrote above is 100% correct. Smile

Thanks for agreeing with me.

Apparently I do have some intelligence, after all. But not very much.

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