05-16-2007, 06:42 PM
I admit that I have alot of anger inside. I often walk out in the woods, grab a wooden stick and go berserk at the trees. (probably not as you might think)
05-16-2007, 06:42 PM
05-16-2007, 06:43 PM
... but I fear the consequence of killing, I wouldn't kill.
05-17-2007, 12:00 AM
In defence of myself, my family, or the preschool kids I work with. I would also help with assisted suicide for one I loved if there was no other way and they insisted. Otherwise, no. I don't believe that human life is any more sacred than any other creature, but at the same time, it is not up to me to destroy something unique. I even feel bad about killing red-back and white-tail spiders that get inside my house; more often than not, I'll trap them in a glass and release them into the patch of bushland at the end of my street.
Alison
Alison
05-17-2007, 12:20 PM
bipolarbear Wrote:
some off you have a odd thinking pattern.
at least if you compare it with mine.
i would rather die then kill,
not even in self defense, i have many times in my youth years gotten beaten up for the fact that i am not white.
and at those times i have never fought back, i have at a few times gotten down on my knees and told them to take out the anger they hold within on me so that they will never do it again with someone else.
i gave them permission to do it.
the second i kill, i have tainted this garden. and destroyed what makes it so beautiful.
just cos others kill does not mean i ever will.
at least if you compare it with mine.
i would rather die then kill,
not even in self defense, i have many times in my youth years gotten beaten up for the fact that i am not white.
and at those times i have never fought back, i have at a few times gotten down on my knees and told them to take out the anger they hold within on me so that they will never do it again with someone else.
i gave them permission to do it.
the second i kill, i have tainted this garden. and destroyed what makes it so beautiful.
just cos others kill does not mean i ever will.
A rather unfamiliar way of thinking for me at least, but I definitely respect it.
05-18-2007, 08:58 AM
Hmm, I'm just not sure.
05-18-2007, 01:04 PM
I wouldn't. Period.
Attributing what Cho did to autism strikes me as a little sketchy. As I've said before, we Aspies and high functioning autistics have a devil of a time reading people. It seems to me that Cho read people just fine, and indeed he knew all too well how to scare the living daylights out of them.
Attributing what Cho did to autism strikes me as a little sketchy. As I've said before, we Aspies and high functioning autistics have a devil of a time reading people. It seems to me that Cho read people just fine, and indeed he knew all too well how to scare the living daylights out of them.
05-18-2007, 07:03 PM
I wonder if Cho and that guy who stabbed his classmate in Britain were driven by potentially dangerous obsessions which they raised to an extreme level.
Wasn't that guy in Britain obsessed about knives?
Wasn't that guy in Britain obsessed about knives?
05-18-2007, 08:59 PM
I don't know if being "against" killing actually can prevent one from murder.
Kazuto Wrote:
hmm, it's a wonder no one quoted me..
We're discussing an aspect of the incident, the other threads discussed some random stuff related.
05-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Very fascinating and interesting.
06-06-2007, 10:42 AM
Simen Wrote:
Murder and death is never pretty, now is it?
I luv squashing ants!
MvuhHAhhaahahAHA!!!!
06-06-2007, 11:15 PM
erkolos Wrote:
Simen Wrote:
Murder and death is never pretty, now is it?
I luv squashing ants!
MvuhHAhhaahahAHA!!!!
A lot of the children in my preschool class wonder why I get upset when they deliberately squash ants. They don't "get" my feeling that the ant, being a living creature rather than an automaton, presumably valued it's own life as much as it is possible to do with such a tiny neural cortex. How can we know, and why do we assume it has no feelings?
At any rate, I hate it because invariably I have to finish the poor wildly threshing creature off rather than see it suffer from it's crushed abdomen and broken exoskeleton, desperately trying to crawl back to its anthill and leaking internal body fluids, before dying.
I hate fishing, as well - if fish had lungs, the act of fishing would not be nearly so peaceful, as the fish would be screaming when they come out of the water with their entire body weight hanging from a barb through the lip.
My husband just read this and said, "But you are not a vegetarian, you eat meat." Yes I do, but the meat I eat has been farmed and growing up on a farm I know the care farmers take of their animals, beginning with birth ie my father down on his hands and knees helping a straining ewe birth her lamb, right to market, with medical attention and food provided, plus protection from predators. And the death provided is quick and sure, rather than long, gruesome and lingering.
Alison
06-08-2007, 09:14 AM
In Australia the death penalty was abolished because the last person to be executed turned out later not to have been guilty of the crime for which he was convicted. If a state is to have the death penalty... I personally don't believe that any state should... But if a state is to have the death penalty, then their judicial system must be perfect. Any less than perfect, and the death penalty simply isn't justifiable. And a perfect judicial system is impossible. So. I reckon you can follow this argument to its logical conclusion without me doing it for you.
hrick
06-08-2007, 03:15 PM
This post made me cry. To hear that the young man was autistic devastated me. I'm not sure why. Mom
Hrick writes:
It is a difficult question. The Ego wants to say no. But we are equally capable of both love and anger/hate. I could kill out of both emotions; to protect a love one, to destroy an enemy - how is it different? The difference as I see it is in the motivation to act. I am not selfless as Christ and even he lost his temper when people defiled his Father's Temple.. and it was just a place. God killed with purpose too. If it is in him, it is in us.
Hrick writes:
It is a difficult question. The Ego wants to say no. But we are equally capable of both love and anger/hate. I could kill out of both emotions; to protect a love one, to destroy an enemy - how is it different? The difference as I see it is in the motivation to act. I am not selfless as Christ and even he lost his temper when people defiled his Father's Temple.. and it was just a place. God killed with purpose too. If it is in him, it is in us.
06-26-2007, 02:02 AM
I've been a vegetarian for at least 6 years and I believe it's always wrong to take the life of another living creature. The only exception is in my view in self defence (whether at an individual level or during a war eg. against fascism in the 30s and 40s). The death penalty certainly doesn't constitute self defence as violent criminals who pose a danger to society can be kept in prison.
06-26-2007, 11:45 AM
I could not and would not kill and I don't believe in the death penalty. I am also vegetarian.