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Recently, there was an incident in a Virginian uninversity in which 32 people were killed.
The killer's name is Hyang In Cho and he was autistic.
Would you ever kill anyone?
This question is for autistic people.
I know 'I wouldn't.'
didn't this already happen, or is it a different person..?

~Kaz
Self defence: Possibly if I had the chance.

Not self defence: I'm pretty sure I couldn't because I know who would be dead if I could!!!
I could kill. But why should I? The consequencies deter me. How long is the dead going to stay dead?

erkolos Wrote:
I admit that I have alot of anger inside. I often walk out in the woods, grab a wooden stick and go berserk at the trees. (probably not as you might think)


why would you hurt trees? what have they done to you?

Alison Wrote:
In defence of myself, my family, or the preschool kids I work with.  I would also help with assisted suicide for one I loved if there was no other way and they insisted.  Otherwise, no.  I don't believe that human life is any more sacred than any other creature, but at the same time, it is not up to me to destroy something unique.  I even feel bad about killing red-back and white-tail spiders that get inside my house; more often than not, I'll trap them in a glass and release them into the patch of bushland at the end of my street.
Alison


i do that too.
i cant kill spiders, i let them stay and give them names.

some off you have a odd thinking pattern.
at least if you compare it with mine.
i would rather die then kill,
not even in self defense, i have many times in my youth years gotten beaten up for the fact that i am not white.
and at those times i have never fought back, i have at a few times gotten down on my knees and told them to take out the anger they hold within on me so that they will never do it again with someone else.
i gave them permission to do it.

the second i kill, i have tainted this garden. and destroyed what makes it so beautiful.

just cos others kill does not mean i ever will.
hmm, it's a wonder no one quoted me..
I don't feel anyone has the right to take another person's life, except if it's in self defense (i.e. someone was stabbing you) or extremely severe provocation (i.e. somone is stabbing your child or pet) and there are no other alternatives. In theory, I don't even believe the death penalty is just, but honestly there aren't any realistic alternatives for it.

I'm against killing of any kind, be it plants or animals, unless it's necessary and/or unavoidable (like for food and such).

erkolos Wrote:

bipolarbear Wrote:
some off you have a odd thinking pattern.
at least if you compare it with mine.
i would rather die then kill,
not even in self defense, i have many times in my youth years gotten beaten up for the fact that i am not white.
and at those times i have never fought back, i have at a few times gotten down on my knees and told them to take out the anger they hold within on me so that they will never do it again with someone else.
i gave them permission to do it.

the second i kill, i have tainted this garden. and destroyed what makes it so beautiful.

just cos others kill does not mean i ever will.

A rather unfamiliar way of thinking for me at least, but I definitely respect it.



In india when the muslim invaders came from the north and attacked the then hindu population (who where pacifists) where slaughtred, raped, killed and boiled alive.

hindus would not fight back (some did but most did not) as their religion was of peace.
at one point a sect was born, this sect where the Sikhs, they later formed the religion of Sikhism.
What they did was to disguise themselves as muslims and assassinated and stopped the muslim invasions.
they said that they would take the judgement on their own shoulders so their brothers and sisters (who where hindus) would not need to be abolished from divinity.
My family is the decedents of those Sikhs.

erkolos Wrote:
Very fascinating and interesting.


its really a glorified picture.
really its not all that pretty.

Murder and death is never pretty, now is it?
The death of a squashed ant is quick and sure, too.

I'm not sure what you mean about the ant being living rather than an automaton. They're so simple, barely having anything that could be called a brain at all. When humans, having so much more brain power, still act as automatons much of the time, why not an ant?
The death penalty is a lame and counter productive way of dealing with the people who go that far. The state of Illinois have kept William Heirens locked up ever since 1946. The state of Oregon kept Jerome Brudos incarcerated for 36 years before he passed away.

USA is such a huge country that there should be possible to construct a maximum security society somewhere so far away from civilisation that some of the worse products of society could live out their life in a productive way rather than rot away in a prison system that only make bad people get worse.

To enforce the death penalty DA's, Judges, Attorney's and Lawyer's spend years and years in court, battling about details from here to infinity. What if all the energy, time and money that is put down to put down (sorry for the pun) people were to be used in prosecuting the every day freaks that make life miserable for a lot of people.

It's a cycle of violence that must stop. Blood can't wash away blood...

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It is a difficult question.  The Ego wants to say no. But we are equally capable of both love and anger/hate.  I could kill out of both emotions; to protect a love one, to destroy an enemy - how is it different?  The difference as I see it is in the motivation to act.  I am not selfless as Christ and even he lost his temper when people defiled his Father's Temple.. and it was just a place.  God killed with purpose too.  If it is in him, it is in us.


Good point.

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But... for me, I don't know if I could kill someone. I *wouldn't* kill someone, unless they were trying to kill me or someone else or some other good reason. But even in that case, I don't know if I could. I guess it would depend on *how* I could kill them... I don't think I'd be able to hit someone over the head with a metal bar, but if theere was some other way...

I dunno what I'm trying to say. Basically, I pretty much *wouldn't* kill someone (as someone else mentioned, I don't even step on ants), I don't know if I *could* kill someone, and I hope I'll never have to find out.

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