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I've found myself asking this question a lot lately to myself.

Let me start with an intro: Hello, I'm Joule (one unit of energy), from Louisville, KY, USA.  I'm 31 years old, and I teach computers and computer graphics to high schoolers, as well as run the network and am generally geek-of-all-trades there.

Actually, before this, I worked with special-needs students (elementary school), some of them were well into the "severe" end of the autism spectrum; non-verbal for the most part.  I actually found that I got along with them great, and kind of was able to get along with them better than most other adults.

Anyhow, I started thinking about this a lot when my boyfriend and I were in this jewelry shop.  He wanted to buy me something nice to wear out, and I found myself annoyed with all of it.  But I remember that shop, the way the noise echoed off the walls, and felt like someone crashing cymbals against each ear... physically painful.  I started edging toward the door, then I bolted out, stepped into an alley off the main street, and took a few minutes to just hyperventalate.  I told him I needed to sit down for a bit, someplace quiet, so I walked around to this empty lot and sat on the wall for... I dunno how long.  After that, he was concerned (he'd seen me shy away from big crowds, loud places, etc, but never saw me react like that.)  He wondered if I "might have a touch of Asperger's."  Though it never occured to me before, I started wondering it myself, which is why I am asking here, now.  

So, situations like that happen a lot.  I teach in a high school, and it can get pretty loud in there.  Also, I find that most of the kids annoy me, save for my few very focused, very interested students, whom I adore and do everything I can to help tap the creativity in.

But get me in loud places, overwhelming places, busy crazy places, and I start to get antsy.  I usually make my way for the door, asap, whether or not I got done there what I needed to.

Futhermore, I've always been /very/ odd in comparison to others my age.  Other girls wanted barbies, I wanted to build things with my dad.  Other girls wanted dresses, I wanted computers, and then I wanted dad to show me how they worked.  Other girls went on dates; I went to Mensa meetings.  What's more, I've always had a sense of alien-ness.  As a child, I entertained the notion that "the fae exchaged my body for a fairy baby, and my parents raised the wrong one." I quickly dismissed the notion when I noticed that I'm the spitting image of my dad.  But it didn't change the fact that I'd always felt like I wasn't "of the same world as everyone else" or sometimes, a bit more bluntly, "not from this planet."  

(Yeah, I don't -really- think that, but it's a clever way to imagine things, and to understand things.  I mean, it's possible - everything is possible - but I'm not going to suspend rationale, say, of considering things like Asperger's over alien-abductions or fairy-changeling hijinks.)

The sociability thing... I don't know... I actually can be hypersensitive to that, too... it's the part that I'm not sure about.  I sometimes think I'm too much into other peoples' heads, because I study them intently and see exactly what is going on with them.  I don't necessarily feel like I "connect" with them, or even -care- about what they are feeling, but I can read them like books.  Every nuance, every twitch of the lip, every shift of the body weight, they all tell things to me.  I find that I process the information quickly and can always tell what is what with the people around me - reading the "vibe." In a sense, it, too, is a defense mechanism against my social anxieties though - I actually studied psychology in college because I wanted to understand people better... and to this day, I find that I enjoy asking odd things of people and putting odd things before them that they react to, to see what they do. Constantly experimenting. The more I understand people, the more I know which situations I am accepted in, and which situations I am not, and when I must leave which unaccepted situations, so that I don't get my *** kicked for my loud, rude, mouth.

And I'm a truth-teller.  I can't understand often when people are lying to me - I trust by nature, but have learned, again, as a defense, to mistrust, and to watch for lies.  (Part of why I read so much, too.  I can catch someone in a lie because it conflicts with my own knowledge.)  I don't see a point to deceiving, because eventually truth will be known, and you are just delaying the inevitable.  

I've always found it hard to relate to most people, though.  The strange things they do, the things they pursue in their lives... they seem so unimportant.  Why is it that you have to get rich luxury foods, fur coats, and exotic locales for your sensual pleasures, when walking barefoot through a soft bed of grass is -awesomely good.-  Why do people lose their sense of joy?  Why is happiness so downed in  this world?  Why do people insist on making themselves so miserable and distorting who they really are, so that they can be an accepted part of society?  What good is t to live in that kind of lies and misery?

Forget 'em.  I'll sit here and paint, instead.  And then I do forget them.  Sometimes I forget to eat, even.  That's bad.

I'm so much my own person, so much different as I've felt in my life... and I've always wondered if there were other people like me out there?  The ones I've met are so few and far between, those I can actually truly feel as if I am communicating with.  (My boyfriend, and a very, very small handful of friends, all people as completely odd as me.)

I wonder if this, Asperger's, might not have a bit of self-knowledge for me by which I can better understand myself.
        Cool  HELLO JOULE!  Cool

Hooray, another psychology fan like me!  I read people well too (at least I seem to, given how much better my social skills are at 41 than they were when I was a child, a teenager, even an adult in her 20s and 30s.  I think you will find many people here who are like you...welcome!  Cool
Well, thank you!  I've been poking around some of the threads here, and finding the conversation to be refreshingly thought-provoking and stimulating.  I think I'll enjoy it here!

I'm a nut for psychology. I think that the human mind, in all of its mysteries that we still have to discover, is one of the most fascinating unexplored landscapes that even the greatest explorers have barely come to understand.  I studied it a lot for helping with my ability to understand people and their motivations, but also in the sense of understanding how to best use every facet of my own.

Joule Wrote:
Well, thank you!  I've been poking around some of the threads here, and finding the conversation to be refreshingly thought-provoking and stimulating.  I think I'll enjoy it here!

I'm a nut for psychology. I think that the human mind, in all of its mysteries that we still have to discover, is one of the most fascinating unexplored landscapes that even the greatest explorers have barely come to understand.  I studied it a lot for helping with my ability to understand people and their motivations, but also in the sense of understanding how to best use every facet of my own.


Watch for my posts especially.  Trust me, if anyone here is stimulating/thought-provoking, it's me.  Of course, so are most others on here.

I guess all I'm saying is, keep an eye out for me!

Joule Wrote:

I'm a nut for psychology. I think that the human mind, in all of its mysteries that we still have to discover, is one of the most fascinating unexplored landscapes that even the greatest explorers have barely come to understand. …


If you don't dislike online tests, you might want to try these:
Aspie-quiz
Wired
You can compare your results here.

Btw: a very fascinating intense interest of yours! Welcome to the forum.

I've taken those quizzes, and scored in the "You might be Asperger's" category, but not very far into it.  Anyhow, I'm not sweating it too much.  I am who I am, and if I find people who understand me here, then so much the better.
welcome Joule!

you sound...interesting Tongue...

patygirl Wrote:
my head feels full of "arghhhhhhh".


Big Grin  Love it!

I feel ya..I am a hands on girl myself..other ladies are attracted to jewerlery and fashion..I dont get it.. me...its power tools or paint..anything I can use to built or fix something.The need to be creative..something I can focus on..

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I am with you there. I enjoy sewing and making clothing, but more "fun" stuff - not so much for style, but for costume, for art, to make myself my own canvas. (I posted a link in the art forum here to my stuff.) For me, the process of figuring out how to make a new dress or design a new style is more fun than doing things that are all about being stylish.

I am a nut for hardware stores, too. I think I scare the people at the local store, because I always go in there and just wander and let my creativity take over.  "I can use this to build that, and I could use a few feet of this and a few pieces of that, and put them together, and..."

Building stuff is fun.  I have big projects in mind that I want to build, but find that I never have the time!  I tell my boyfriend that I want my own "ivory tower," where I can just hide away for days, weeks on end, not be bothered, and get deep into creating amazing things.

I get the headfull of "arrrrghhhh" too.  Especially when I'm pretending to be a pirate. Smile
Well, I always prefer to read textbooks, technical manuals, or other non-fiction for the heck of it. I don't like fiction, except for maybe science fiction.
I rarely read fiction.  I like reading about things that interest me... however I -really- like Tom Robbins, though...his writing style is so odd...The book "Still Life With Woodpecker," where the princess and the mad activist bomber fall in love is a BRILLIANT read.
“Now tequila may be the favoured beverage of outlaws but that doesn't mean it gives them preferential treatment. In fact, tequila probably has betrayed as many outlaws as has the central nervous system and dissatisfied wives. Tequila, scorpion honey, harsh dew of the doglands, essence of Aztec, crema de cacti; tequila, oily and thermal like the sun in solution; tequila, liquid geometry of passion; Tequila, the buzzard god who copulates in midair with the ascending souls of dying virgins; tequila, firebug in the house of good taste; O tequila, savage water of sorcery, what confusion and mischief your sly, rebellious drops do generate!” -- From "Still Life..." - A favorite book of mine.
I can't build or fix something to save my life.  Anyone else have the same problem?

Batman55 Wrote:
I can't build or fix something to save my life.  Anyone else have the same problem?

I could and do all the time, but it would not be likely to be how most people would fix it, and it might not last (because thinking and planning ahead don't always work for me).

I would not have survived with my sanity as intact as it is now if I hadn't constantly moulded my environment to fit my sensory needs.

With clothes, I've got fairly good at making do and patching up as new ones are so expensive.

I make an exception for electrical goods as unfortunately, it often costs just as much to get them fixed as it does to buy something new. Rats to planned obsolescence!
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