The person you find more respectable is down to the character traits displayed therein.
Yes, I find bigotry to be a form of bad character.
My argument is solely an ideological one and it is based on logic.
Ideology doesn't impress me that much, having little to do with reality most of the time.
As for logic... meh. Asimov said it best: "You can prove anything you want by coldly logical reason -- if you pick the proper postulates... Postulates are based on assumption and adhered to by faith. Nothing in the Universe can shake them."
Some people with Down's go to college. Just FYI.
I suppose by those terms my nearsightedness is my fault because they're my eyeballs. I think I've decided against this discussion having had a rational basis.
Yeah I've talked to someone who said she can understand bonobos who speak English but they do it with such a thick accent it's really hard to understand (because of the lacking vocal apparatus part).
My. Gods. Dadga help me D: I just read this topic and I'm stuned. It's not the orginal topic that stunned me it's the fact some one like Louise hasn't been banned yet. What a stupid prick, she thinks she walk into a fourm that is mainly run by human rights activists that support equal rights and equality to cognitivly challenged and she goes on yapping like a retarded dog about "Respect only belonging to the those who have high intelligence." Well looks like you fail on that since your dumber Rhesus monkeys in lab. No "intelligent" being would post that arrogant as hell shit in a fourm like this.
Thats retarded Obviously college students have less people sense than Aspies do. Heck am the one with the diagonosis, your just an uppity little collage snot.
Seriously I hope there is a hell in the form of resident home just for you, where can piss yourself and moan, and your keepers will be in form monkeys diapering your crappy ass.
Enjoy Picknose you have alot in common with a troll.
Well Bard Wolf, you certainly have my respect for this post, and others.
Louise18 is the complete antithesis of what AFF stands for, and like you am surprised she has not been banned before she gets a verbal linching for her bigoted elitist views, and blatant discrimination against those less fortunate than herself.
Is this the same Louise18 that boasts about being in one of the top 2 English universities, Oxford, and Cambridge?
I think there's a kipper off somewhere here.
From the thread, "Livin' in exponential Times", Louise18 wrote:
Thats quite scary. I am really not that bright; especially not at maths and sciences. Could anyone who is good at maths and or science PM me? I would be interested to find out how their mind works differently to mine. Thanls
In ancient cultures where resources were more scarce, they would have killed that child once they realized it was a burden on the tribe because it would effect their own survival.
There is abundant archaeological evidence against this particular rewriting of history to suit modern bigotry like yours.
It is a true economic fact that things become valuable when they are scarce. Unintelligent minions are not rare, therefore they are not valuable. I don't think more expensive housing is as much of an issue as lack of scientific development would be. The reason bright people are worth more is because if it was necessary, they could take out their own rubbish, clean up after themselves.
I am usually considered a bright person (if anyone bothers to ignore my appearance) and I can not do those things. Not all bright people can. Many can't, or have more difficulty with them than usual. In fact, many people who are described as not being very bright because they have so much trouble with those things, are in fact pretty bright by conventional standards.
Sure, it would take longer, but there would be twice as many intelligent people to work on the main project. The point about stupid people is not that their job is pointless, its that they can ONLY clean the floor, whereas bright people can do both.
Stupid people are not people who have trouble juggling lots of things in their head, nor are they people who learn slower than usual. Stupidity isn't about how much of a certain kind of intellectual skill you've got, it's what you do with what you've got. I know a lot of very stupid people with very high IQs.
At any rate, there's a lot of things that intellectually disabled people can do besides clean floors. And there's a lot of bright people who can't clean floors. So your arguments are not making a lot of sense.
There are a lot of bright people who can't clean floors, though. I'm not making random assertions here. For instance, many autistic people are bright and it's not noticed because they can't do things like clean floors, so it's just assumed they can't think either.
This is one of the saddest threads that I have ever read
Hear hear. :-(
That's one reason not to work from ideologies.
Wow I have only just come across this thread. It is brilliant!
Now serious question here everyone................................Can Louise18 be my "pet monkey"? Please!
Louise18 you have really amused me with your opinions (and let's face it they are just that and not very well thought out ones at that). The fact that you lord your superiority over the people you are discussing this wayward topic with has peaked my interest in debating this with you. For the record I am not an Oxford scholar. I have not got a degree. I am an ex-cleaner at an abattoir, so let's just say I am fair game here for an intellectual heavyweight like yourself.
Now a BIG problem I see with your premise is the understanding you seem to have of a lot of abstract concepts. They are not universal. Indeed words such as "value", "success", "respect", "intelligence" and the like mean different things to different people.
What efforts have you seriously made in defining these terms that are central in espousing your ideologies? It is not the sign of a good critical thinking mind that is not willing (or unable?) to define the parameters of such concepts. It is either saying I am allowing myself at any point to defend myself with "Yes but I didn't mean my argument to be taken or viewed in that light because what you believed I meant is not what I did mean" OR it is the assumption that everyone understands intrinsically that when you say an abstract word that their concept exactly matches your own.
Of course there is great risk in doing this. Whilst it does show you have a mind that allows itself to think about what the hell you are gibbering on about, it does expose your argument. You are unable then to redefine your argument without looking like you are scrambling IF your argument is unable to stand on it's own.
So how about it? Why don't you trawl through this couple of dozen of posts on this thread redefine what on Earth you were really trying to present and restructure and redefine what your argument was/is? Try it out on a "valueless" ex-cleaner. See how you go. It will hardly be a measure of critical thinking or academic fortitude or even intellectual superiority to soundly thrash me verbally on this forum, but.......I really think you are not that clever or that good at having people question you. I think it sounds like fun.
Ohhhhh....Louise has posted again! Can't I play with her a while???
OK, OK. Sorry Louise. You haven't been playing nicely with the other posters. I would love to turn your arguments and points of contention inside out and upside down.
Basically I wanted to have a bit of a laugh at you.
I guess one thing I will say as a small piece of advice. The whole "I admit I am valueless but I at least know I am worth more than others" sounds suspiciously like the whole Socrates argument. He stated he knew nothing and in proclaiming that sought to try to use his intellect to prove otherwise. It is false modesty. It didn't work for him and I am sure I am not the only one here with an understanding of this tactic. I am very sure trying this out with others similarly versed in ancient history and philosophy will result in them seeing right through you.
Not a good tactic. Socrates was actually smart and good at debating and look what he got for his efforts - a tasty cup of hemlock!