The difference between humans and animals...
Animal genes by themselves has no practical use to the competing human genes.
If a human has little brain activity it is still far more gentically identical than animals. Still they might be a threat to other humans mainly because they would probably be more of a strain in most situations, that is however not as relevant today with our current wealth as it would be in poorer times.
That's my view.
I believe that are there are 4 possible purposes to human existence. 1) Personal happiness 2) Maximising the happiness of others 3) Personal Achievement (as in knowledge) 4) The advancement of society's aggregate achievements 5)The pursuit of Justice. It is also possible that there is no point to life and nothing that we do matters at all. I assume that the only way to guarantee that your lifd fulfills any purpose (if indeed there is one), is to pursue all of these things, and therefore the greater the person's success in pursuing them, the better that person and the more deserving they are of life's rewards of pride, respect, and happiness. I believe that the pursuit of justice dictates that not everyone is deserving of happiness and therefore the INDISCRIMINATE pursuit of increasing the happiness of others is counterproductive to that pursuit of justice and therefore a negative. I believe that the pursuit of Justice and society's general pool of knowledge is the most important because it is a contribution that lasts for all eternity whilst the others are extinguished within the lifetime of a single person, or group of people.
Stupid people are not able to contribute to 3,4, or 5 except by luck e.g. they witnessed a murder. People should not be given respect for contributions they made PURELY out of luck where their exploitation of that luck was no greater than the average person.
People should earn respect and happiness in proportion to their contribution to the world and should be given opportunities to contribute in proportion to their capacity to do so. Stand make a logical demonstration of the fallacies. DO NOT Insult the writer.
Well my most recent theory of meaning of life was something about keeping your genes as long as possible in history, cuz that's what creatures always try to evolve into, but anyway. If you say bad things about people you get... let's say... killed, and then your genes vanish from history, it's as simple as that.
That is not true. People are inferior if they are less intelligent, or make less of a contribution to society than I do, or have less potential to make such a contribution.
That... was offensive.
Can you give a contribution to society by not saying such things?
PLS!
Or else I call you inferior or something... </sarcasm, but honestly>
Because your genetics ARE you. They aren't a thing external to you tha is bestowed upon you like money or affection. Therefore you are saying in essence how can you say that your good fortune in being better makes you better than someone less fortunate?
Do you think that we should all give up our lives and be slaves for some tiny minority of people who supposedly have super-genes?
Why not rather challange those people with "super-genes" so that they prove that they can make a "better" (which is a relative word) contribution? Should you have to prove that you have "super genes", or do you assume that you're just perfect?
Worthy and inferior are two abstract words I don't really understand. I understand their purpose, but they have no definite meaning to me. It's like calling somebody "sexy". Is it sexy to have bare feet? In muslim contries that is often the case, but not that often in western countries. This means the word 'sexy' has a relative meaning.
To assume that people should be left out for the elements just because they fit your definition of "inferior" is downright stupid.
Many autistic people are good with computers, many NT's are not. Many autistics are then able to do a contribition that most NT's are unable to do. But the NT norm can ofcourse do many things better than autistics.
And here's a thing: We do not know what people are capable of doing.
Did I just post that?
Surely not perfect, but anyway.
I have no interest in a career in politics, and I am prepared to put my neck on the line for my beliefs.
As Louise now gets more and more agitated it seems, she is holding tighter and tighter to her beliefs and even make them more extreme. I think I have seen this among other autistics, including myself. I think the only way we can allow Louise to rethink her ideas is to actually stop the discussion. Maybe by locking the thread, not deleting it at first so she can re-read the stuff she have stated.
I have no interest in a career in politics, and I am prepared to put my neck on the line for my beliefs.
As Louise now gets more and more agitated it seems, she is holding tighter and tighter to her beliefs and even make them more extreme. I think I have seen this among other autistics, including myself. I think the only way we can allow Louise to rethink her ideas is to actually stop the discussion. Maybe by locking the thread, not deleting it at first so she can re-read the stuff she have stated.
Don't you DARE prevent me from responding logically to the arguments presented before me. That is duckign out of an argument you know you can't win.
You might believe that you sound all good, like many autistics before you. Watch this video Ian found lately:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw3zxL-yahU
Some believe he is aspie. He is actually pretty much as provoking as you are now, abit less actually.
Letting you respond also means letting provoked people criticize you, criticism you obviously can't ever take to your heart.
This is beginning to look like bullying of Louise18, honestly.
I believe she will be able to modify her ideas if she just stay away from the topic and focus on reality for some time.
Like Batman55 I also have some admiration for people who stands alone against a crowd and I do have some sympathy for Louise18, but not her recent statements.
Louise, I don't care commenting your arguments, I don't even care reading them from now.
Erkolos
I really admire you very much.
You are a wise & good person.
Gee thanks! I hope it isn't just because I show disagreement against a person who says things that are not politically correct.
I am not good at giving compliments myself but I think people are writing great stuff at AFF.
You may believe in whatever you want, but I honestly hope you will drop your human-worth mentality for the sake of really great people who are being loved for who they are.
Done.
I hoped someone would follow my example and not give Louise any attention/"oxygen".
I can't believe that this debate has gone on for this long. Louise, your posts on this subject have made anything else you might have to say utterly worthless, and I urge those reading along to ignore any future statements she may make.
In short, Don't Feed the Troll.
Defintely!
Don't let this topic distract you.