Touche on the spelling (and before you comment I cannot fine the accent button on my computer). That is pretty much the only sensible criticism of my posts so far. And I am an oxonian law student, whether you believe it or not is immaterial to me.
There is nothing to say that being happy and making a contribution are mutually exclusive. Even if they were, if all achievements were rendered pointless they would still have existed as achievements as much as the happiness of those who pursued hedonism. The two pursuits would be equally pointless.
It is a true economic fact that things become valuable when they are scarce. Unintelligent minions are not rare, therefore they are not valuable. I don't think more expensive housing is as much of an issue as lack of scientific development would be. The reason bright people are worth more is because if it was necessary, they could take out their own rubbish, clean up after themselves. Sure, it would take longer, but there would be twice as many intelligent people to work on the main project. The point about stupid people is not that their job is pointless, its that they can ONLY clean the floor, whereas bright people can do both.
There are not a lot of bright people who cannot clean floors. You are just making random assertions. Some people are more easily replaced than others. There are more people capable of cleaning floors than there are people capable of inventing electricity. Therefore, the former are worth less than the latter. People with high IQ's, generally are able to do more things than those people who have low IQs. Obviously an individual's value has to be individually assessed, but in general more intelligent people are more value than non-intelligent people.
Like I said. What is rare is valuable. It is far more likely that a Fields Medal Winner can clean a floor than that a floor cleaner can win a fields medal. Therefore some tasks are never likely to be short of people capable of doing them.
Like I said. What is rare is valuable. It is far more likely that a Fields Medal Winner can clean a floor than that a floor cleaner can win a fields medal. Therefore some tasks are never likely to be short of people capable of doing them.
Just why do you need to repeatedly tell us that you are an 'Oxonian Law Student'?
Methinks the lady doth protest to much
You are British, don't you remember the London taxi driver who won the brain of Britain contest?
I have said it twice. Once because it was a relevant response to a comment someone made about me, and once because someone doubted it was true.
Like I said. What is rare is valuable. It is far more likely that a Fields Medal Winner can clean a floor than that a floor cleaner can win a fields medal. Therefore some tasks are never likely to be short of people capable of doing them.
Just why do you need to repeatedly tell us that you are an 'Oxonian Law Student'?
Methinks the lady doth protest to much
You are British, don't you remember the London taxi driver who won the brain of Britain contest?
I have said it twice. Once because it was a relevant response to a comment someone made about me, and once because someone doubted it was true.
that could be twice to many & really I for one don't need to know, perhaps we could start another thread entitled 'how many qualifications have you got?'
So where did my quote come from?
& how about the Taxi Driver... menial job, but Brain of Britain.
Addendum. your computer will tell you where & how to find all of the extra keys on your keyboard.
My every response is not tailored specifically to you. It is a piece of background information that seemed relevant in the context of my discussion with somenone else. If it is not relevant to you, then why bring it up?
It depends what else the taxi driver does with his intelligence. Currently, he is worth very little if that is all he does. However, he is worth more than a stupid taxi driver because of his potentia. Assuming brain of britain is about intelligence and not just general knowledge.
Addendum, I can't be bothered to look. This is an internet forum. It is not worth it.
[I know that your remarks are not tailored to me, but you are the one posting them for all to see.
London Taxi Drivers must pass very rigorous exams in order to pursue their trade & must continue to do so.
Re addendum, it would be worth it in order to pursue your chosen career.
This is one of the saddest threads that I have ever read
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Yes but they are going to give information that others may find useful even if you don't. So pointing out that some bits are irrelevant to you is a bit of a waste of time.
Cab drivers are not that important, and it does not require any great level of intellect.
I know where the accent is in word, I cannot be bothered to look up the code for it on a laptop keyboard.
I do not understand why people cannot face up to the fact that human beings are not equal. Some are better than others, and some deserve more respect than others for that reason. Some people make a huge contribution to society, others a barely noticeable one. I don't see why everyone has to spend so much time and energy trying to deny this fact. It might be a cruel fact for those who are not amongst the talented few, but it is, nevertheless, the truth.
It doesn't even matter what criteria you use. Regardless of which skills you consider most valuable, some people are going to be worth less than others no matter what ideology you apply.
You seem to have cause and effect mixed up ambuend. You aren't supposed to look at then end result and say 'I don't like that' you are supposed to start with axioms and end at the logical conclusion. People are not equal, whichever way you slice it.
That makes no sense. You start with the idea. Otherwise its like starting off looking for something without knowing where you are going.
In science, yes. In philosophy no. You have to begin with establishing what you are aiming at, otherwise you spend a long time trying to achieve something that turns out to be something you did not want to achieve in the first place.
I had the information that they were of sub-normal intelligence and could not apply themsleves to learning. Anyway, it matters not what they are worth. If they ACT like monkeys, they deserve to be called monkeys.
Ian, the saddest part of all this is: if we are unable to persuade a fellow Aspie that prejudice is inherently wrong, how are we going to persuade the 'curebie militia'?
I'm also sorry Ian.
But I'm with Tigger & Erkolos on this.
NO ONE has the right to call another a pet monkey EVER for ANY reason.
I need to do some work just now..
Yes they do.
The criteria works when you aware of all of a person's achievements, and their moral transgressions. No system works without the right information.
I have substantiated my points as much as (if not more than) anyone else in this thread.
I have substantiated my points with more than straw men. Read the WHOLE thread. If I fail to achieve anything of worth, then I deserve to live a life of misery just as anyone else does. I have no interest in a career in politics, and I am prepared to put my neck on the line for my beliefs. If I am attacked the attackers will get their just punishment. And of course extreme intelligence is abnormal. The whole point of normal is that it is what the average person is capable of. Abnormal is anything outside that range in either direction. Abnormal is not an insult it is a statement of fact, and in this case it is the positive things.
Just because WHO YOU ARE is based on random chance, does not mean it is not part of you or that you cannot be judgd on it. It is not a chance outside of you. You are the result and there is no reason you should not be judged for what you are.
I have substantiated my points with more than straw men. Read the WHOLE thread. If I fail to achieve anything of worth, then I deserve to live a life of misery just as anyone else does. I have no interest in a career in politics, and I am prepared to put my neck on the line for my beliefs. If I am attacked the attackers will get their just punishment. And of course extreme intelligence is abnormal. The whole point of normal is that it is what the average person is capable of. Abnormal is anything outside that range in either direction. Abnormal is not an insult it is a statement of fact, and in this case it is the positive things.
Just because WHO YOU ARE is based on random chance, does not mean it is not part of you or that you cannot be judgd on it. It is not a chance outside of you. You are the result and there is no reason you should not be judged for what you are.
The world isn't all about a single abstract thing like "human worth".
True. But human society is about human worth and human achievements.