Aspies For Freedom

If they contribute nothing that could not be equally contributed by another they have not.

Why do both of you asume louise is NT?  Just because she is intolerant and bigotted?  NTs are not the only people capable of bigotry, just so you know.  You should take a good, long look at yourselves and ask yourselves why you would make such an assumption.

Louise18 you have really amused me with your opinions (and let's face it they are just that and not very well thought out ones at that). The fact that you lord your superiority over the people you are discussing this wayward topic with has peaked my interest in debating this with you. For the record I am not an Oxford scholar. I have not got a degree. I am an ex-cleaner at an abattoir, so let's just say I am fair game here for an intellectual heavyweight like yourself.
Now a BIG problem I see with your premise is the understanding you seem to have of a lot of abstract concepts. They are not universal. Indeed words such as "value", "success", "respect", "intelligence" and the like mean different things to different people.
What efforts have you seriously made in defining these terms that are central in espousing your ideologies? It is not the sign of a good critical thinking mind that is not willing (or unable?) to define the parameters of such concepts. It is either saying I am allowing myself at any point to defend myself with "Yes but I didn't mean my argument to be taken or viewed in that light because what you believed I meant is not what I did mean" OR it is the assumption that everyone understands intrinsically that when you say an abstract word that their concept exactly matches your own.
Of course there is great risk in doing this. Whilst it does show you have a mind that allows itself to think about what the hell you are gibbering on about, it does expose your argument. You are unable then to redefine your argument without looking like you are scrambling IF your argument is unable to stand on it's own.

So how about it? Why don't you trawl through this couple of dozen of posts on this thread redefine what on Earth you were really trying to present and restructure and redefine what your argument was/is? Try it out on a "valueless" ex-cleaner. See how you go. It will hardly be a measure of critical thinking or academic fortitude or even intellectual superiority to soundly thrash me verbally on this forum, but.......I really think you are not that clever or that good at having people question you. I think it sounds like fun.

Hmmm not quite sure where I fit into this, But although I am a nurse, at one point due to serious money problems, I also worked in an abattoir (x two jobs), albeit packing bones & pigs ears , hosing down etc.  

Does that count?
Can I come on the same Ark as you two? please???