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when i babysit, and the little girl gives me a hard time I hang her upside down to get her to laugh and stop the bad behavoir. Or I put her in time-out, whatever I feel suites the situation best.

I let them stay up as late as they want. The mom is like "i want them to go to bed at 9 oclock on the weekend" and thats just ridiculously early. So I let them stay up and when we hear the garage door open we RUN!!!!!!!!! to the bedrooms and pretend to go to sleep. This is a good strategy to become friends with the kids, when you're their friends they listen to you. This doesn't appliy to real parents, just baby sitters.
Well gee Bobbo, either we've got a troll..or someone with AS that is so socially inept they actually cannot be nice to people even if they try.

I genuinely cannot wait for more of this persons gems, god yes.

sarahjoke Wrote:

SoccerFreak248 Wrote:
I let them stay up as late as they want. The mom is like "i want them to go to bed at 9 oclock on the weekend" and thats just ridiculously early. So I let them stay up and when we hear the garage door open we RUN!!!!!!!!! to the bedrooms and pretend to go to sleep. This is a good strategy to become friends with the kids, when you're their friends they listen to you. This doesn't appliy to real parents, just baby sitters.


{sarah makes mental note not to have soccerfreak over to babysit.}

uhh... my kids go to bed at 7:30, 8:30 is a late night.  But, in my defense, my oldest one wakes up at 6:30am (depending on the season and time changes, can be as early as 5am).  She's been like that since birth!

{Sarah realizes that since her nights out are few and far between the kids wouldn't be all that badly harmed...}


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This doesn't appliy to real parents, just baby sitters.


And grannies! Big Grin

sarahjoke Wrote:

SoccerFreak248 Wrote:
I let them stay up as late as they want. The mom is like "i want them to go to bed at 9 oclock on the weekend" and thats just ridiculously early. So I let them stay up and when we hear the garage door open we RUN!!!!!!!!! to the bedrooms and pretend to go to sleep. This is a good strategy to become friends with the kids, when you're their friends they listen to you. This doesn't appliy to real parents, just baby sitters.


{sarah makes mental note not to have soccerfreak over to babysit.}

uhh... my kids go to bed at 7:30, 8:30 is a late night.  But, in my defense, my oldest one wakes up at 6:30am (depending on the season and time changes, can be as early as 5am).  She's been like that since birth!

{Sarah realizes that since her nights out are few and far between the kids wouldn't be all that badly harmed...}


well i don't let the little one, age 4, up that late. She'll go to bed at 10 at the VERY VERY latest. (plus she's scared of monsters so it's hard to get her to bed). But there's no reason for the 12 year old to go to bed that early ON THE WEEKEND unless they have a big day the next day.

HEY! im a great babysitter! they have a great time and the kids ADORE me! and i make a point to bring over a scientific experiement for the kids to play with. Last time me and the little one made "goop" out of cornstrach and water; she played with it for an hour and had a blast. (we pretended it was pizza dough). And next time im gonna bring over a Mt. Vesuveus (sp?) and i'll bring over some baking soda, vinegar, and food coloring: all that fun stuff. And I can teach them about Pompay (sp?). It will be so fun.

Plus I leave the house absolutly spotless, wash the dishes, and put away the kids landury, ect.. all the other parent like stuff.

just cause I let them stay up a tinsey bit late to make some goop doesn't make me a bad babsitter!!!!!

sarahjoke Wrote:
no no no!  Didn't say bad!  Sorry, I was in a joking mood last night. Smile  I'm sure your a great babysitter... I'm admittedly strict about my kids' sleep schedules, I learned early that its super important to my kids.  Actually, a friend was over at my house a few days ago and my 3YO was super cranky because she had missed her nap. My friend said, "now I know why you're so crazy about naptime"  Smile

All's well, I just couldn't let that comment pass. Smile


LMFAO!!! sorry I thought you were mad at me Smile

well hopefully the more tired they are the more naps they'll take, so if they are taking naps all day there is less opprotunity ot be smacked. Well this is how my demented logic works LOL

grizeldatee Wrote:
I know there are people who will not approve, but if a child wants to play the hitting game, we play.  None of my children has wanted to play the hitting game since toddlerhood. The first time a child hit me I responded, "Oh, you want to play the hitting game.  OK.  Now it's my turn." And I hit them back, in a non-damaging way -- arm, leg, whatever -- just enough for them to feel the sting of it.  Of course they did not like it.  Then I'd say, "Now it is your turn again, then it will be my turn again. Let's play."  It is interesting how quickly they decide that the hitting game is not fun.


I'm one of those people who do not approve. Surely there are ways to deal with violent children, aside from reacting in violence back towards them. Ever heard of the saying "Do as I say, not as I do?" You hitting them, makes them feel they are justified in hitting you in the first place.

They also might not realize it hurts, they're children! If you say "Ow that hurts mommy!" maybe pretend to cry, they'll understand. Or put them in time out, some way that doesn't involve you physically assaulting the child. How would you like it if someone who looked like a giant, hit you?

grizeldatee Wrote:

violet_yoshi Wrote:

grizeldatee Wrote:
I know there are people who will not approve, but if a child wants to play the hitting game, we play.  None of my children has wanted to play the hitting game since toddlerhood. The first time a child hit me I responded, "Oh, you want to play the hitting game.  OK.  Now it's my turn." And I hit them back, in a non-damaging way -- arm, leg, whatever -- just enough for them to feel the sting of it.  Of course they did not like it.  Then I'd say, "Now it is your turn again, then it will be my turn again. Let's play."  It is interesting how quickly they decide that the hitting game is not fun.


I'm one of those people who do not approve. Surely there are ways to deal with violent children, aside from reacting in violence back towards them. Ever heard of the saying "Do as I say, not as I do?" You hitting them, makes them feel they are justified in hitting you in the first place.


Um, I didn't tell them to not hit. I simply let them know that once they start the hitting game, the person they hit also gets a turn. This is how the real world works -- tit for tat.

violet_yoshi Wrote:
They also might not realize it hurts, they're children! If you say "Ow that hurts mommy!" maybe pretend to cry, they'll understand. Or put them in time out, some way that doesn't involve you physically assaulting the child. How would you like it if someone who looked like a giant, hit you?


You have a strange notion of "physical assault." You do it your way when you have kids of your own. Perhaps your children will have a natural compassion that is lacking in most 2-year-olds.


Surely what little compassion they might have at that age, could be beaten out of them with a little spanking. You want to raise bullies?

grizeldatee Wrote:

violet_yoshi Wrote:

grizeldatee Wrote:

violet_yoshi Wrote:

grizeldatee Wrote:
I know there are people who will not approve, but if a child wants to play the hitting game, we play.  None of my children has wanted to play the hitting game since toddlerhood. The first time a child hit me I responded, "Oh, you want to play the hitting game.  OK.  Now it's my turn." And I hit them back, in a non-damaging way -- arm, leg, whatever -- just enough for them to feel the sting of it.  Of course they did not like it.  Then I'd say, "Now it is your turn again, then it will be my turn again. Let's play."  It is interesting how quickly they decide that the hitting game is not fun.


I'm one of those people who do not approve. Surely there are ways to deal with violent children, aside from reacting in violence back towards them. Ever heard of the saying "Do as I say, not as I do?" You hitting them, makes them feel they are justified in hitting you in the first place.


Um, I didn't tell them to not hit. I simply let them know that once they start the hitting game, the person they hit also gets a turn. This is how the real world works -- tit for tat.

violet_yoshi Wrote:
They also might not realize it hurts, they're children! If you say "Ow that hurts mommy!" maybe pretend to cry, they'll understand. Or put them in time out, some way that doesn't involve you physically assaulting the child. How would you like it if someone who looked like a giant, hit you?


You have a strange notion of "physical assault." You do it your way when you have kids of your own. Perhaps your children will have a natural compassion that is lacking in most 2-year-olds.


Surely what little compassion they might have at that age, could be beaten out of them with a little spanking. You want to raise bullies?


How many children do you have, Yoshi? I have three.  None are bullies, quite the opposite. Get a life and stop trolling. Peace.


Ah yes, since I don't have children I must know nothing about raising them. Surely there isn't any point into gaining insight from a child who was hit when they were younger, and how it trumatized them. No, who would care about gaining insight into what damage it will wreak on their children.

Compliance in response to fear, doesn't mean a child has learned anything, except how to behave to avoid the fear stimulus. How about talking to them instead, and explaining things to them. Oh but then they're only 2 year olds, they surely have no brains, and certainly aren't deserving of basic respect right?

grizeldatee Wrote:
I have thought carefully about this response and whether it is even merited. The malicious, coercive, punitive type of hitting that you want to talk about is not at all what I described. I believe this "misunderstanding" is probably intentional so that you can make whatever point you feel you need to make. For the record -- I am not the person(s) you are angry about. Perhaps you could make your point without slandering me.

Based on personal experiences, as well as conversations with other parents, I do not think a person who has no children really understands a thing about raising them.  I understand that you "believe" that you know what is best for everyone, and that your "theories" are too impeccably logical to be suspect. Like you, I had all of the answers before I had children; parenthood quickly deflated all of those little egotisms. (And a person with only one child is almost as bad as a person with no children since they can sustain the belief that all children respond in essentially the same ways.)

You do not know me, Yoshi, and assume much. I do not know what you have experienced that you call abuse, but I was a child often hit in ways that left marks. I do not care to discuss this further. Suffice it to say that I absolutely agree that the type of hitting you describe is not productive at all.


I suppose that is why you feel it's ok to hit your kids back when they hit you? The cycle of abuse and all that.

me and my siblings were all spanked, not beaten. There is a difference. Getting a little tap on the behind is not going to make you a psycho freak, a beating might. All my sisters were spanked and were JUST FINE. Plus, i'd SO rather be spanked than be screamed in my face.
now this might sound crazy.... I have never....been.... spanked, beaten, bullied (physically).

i however have (when younger) gotten mad eough to lift the couch up and knock people off it (dont ask i dont know how), knock over bookshelves, break down doors. (i used to have a bad temper)

i also recently have had trouble where i push someone of me or away from me (gently) and they fly across the room. and i barely touch them or exert any force (makes me think of the phychic discussion....maybe i have telekinesis as well as empath skills....hmmmm)

sorry that only had half to do with the thread

abscout Wrote:
now this might sound crazy.... I have never....been.... spanked, beaten, bullied (physically).

i however have (when younger) gotten mad eough to lift the couch up and knock people off it (dont ask i dont know how), knock over bookshelves, break down doors. (i used to have a bad temper)

i also recently have had trouble where i push someone of me or away from me (gently) and they fly across the room. and i barely touch them or exert any force (makes me think of the phychic discussion....maybe i have telekinesis as well as empath skills....hmmmm)

sorry that only had half to do with the thread


thats a HELLA amount of adrenaline

Grizeltee(?)Thank you for being thought police enforcer. I agree that there are some things it's difficult to get a complete understanding of unless you've been there, and many people don't get that and think they know best when they don't,I think you're going too far by insisting that no one can say anything about raising children, is a troll, must not think about the subject, and ,appearently, should be forceably silenced, unless they are a parent.Unfortunately in the US the 1st amendment is still in force(that may not last much longer, and most people will be happy to see it go).It is not always necessary to have great knowledge or expertise on a subject to offer a small contribution.I don't know your children and can't tell much about how to raise them.The most i can say is that, looking back, the adults who i was around as a child(parents ,others relatives,girl scout leaders, et c.)did some things that helped me become a more functional adult with a better understanding of the the world,other things that didn't,and that MIGHT give a small bit if information about what works or not.Since i have abused you horribly by hinting at such  thought, now i miust punish myself for not comforming to the thought rules.Since i'm a long-time self-mutilator, i have some ideas, but i would realy like to know what you consider a suitable punishment  for this wrong thinking.Brave New World can't come soon enought.
scary thought

GuessWho Wrote:
What an ambiguous title for a thread

1.  Being bullied by two kids
       a. at once, two against one
       b. in separate conflicts one against one
2.  Receiving romantic attention from two young males
3.  Having two children out of control hitting their parent

From the context of the original posting, it was number 3. This lady was saying that her two little kids were hitting her. I think it was very naughty for them to hit her and that she needed a way of stopping them from doing it.

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