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An article which I don't remember where to find comes to mind.

A person with AS told his story about when he went to school he was very successful compared to the other students, so the teacher showed him as an ideal for the other students. The other students would ofcourse not be like him and wanted to be the opposite of him. So they intentionally did bad at school and alot of things against the rules. They disliked the teacher and anyone who "showed loyalty" to him.

The conclusion of the story was that aspies should keep their good progress at school low.
... as in not well known.
Hmm. I remember that when I was in High School (not horribly long ago) I got okay grades in AP classes and yet the majority of my peers still considered me to be a moron. I did kind of act like one, though (maturity issues).
Some consider us aspies as being cats, while NTs as being monkeys. Monkeys need grooming. Whoever does not partake in grooming is flinged at with shite. Cats on the other hand are satisfied being by themselves. However, cats need to be stroked sometimes.

You may be not a moron. They may be not morons, either. Just different species. You have the advantage of knowing about this, but the disadvantage of being flinged at. If possible, find yourself one trustworthy friend. That should be enough. Do your thing then.
Yeah, of course you have. But either change them or change your attitude. By the way: they have feelings, too, but they are different from yours. This will be that way all your life, so start to deal with it. Learn to know yourself (I say this after reading your signature), and learn to like yourself then. This is your only chance. 'The others' will not change in general. And: be surprised about this and that human being that WILL get to KNOW YOU on your way.

Yigal Wrote:
Yeah, of course you have. But either change them or change your attitude. By the way: they have feelings, too, but they are different from yours. This will be that way all your life, so start to deal with it. Learn to know yourself (I say this after reading your signature), and learn to like yourself then. This is your only chance. 'The others' will not change in general. And: be surprised about this and that human being that WILL get to KNOW YOU on your way.

I'm not sure about all this. We shouldn't have to go around being treated as if we are stupid.

This is right, Pakrat, nobody wants that. But we should not wait for the others to just change, or try to teach them to be different.

Make a suggestion, then.

AS is quite new here on earth as a term, only a few know about it. The most of them who knows are either aspergians or medical / psychological dudes. Firstly, the knowledge must be spread (how so?) and not in form of a dumb prejudice, but the real deal. But what is that? Which shard of the spectrum is to be promoted? Secondly, it must settle in the minds of the majority of earth's inhabitants... which takes about two generations if all goes well.

Remember thatin the eyes of the most, AS is something strange, the aspergians are strange (wrong-planet-syndrom!). Remember that the typical reactions to strange things are fear and aggression. Those two can lead to to either violence (making the 'opponent' smaller) or mockery (making the 'opponent' smaller). There you have your idiot.

This treating of someone who is different as an idiot strengthens the bonds in human groups. Like having a common enemy. Everybody in the peer group who thinks that a chosen person is an idiot is him- or herself not an idiot, and he or she has an opinion that goes conform with the opinion of all the other of that peer group which is some kind of a self-acceptance.

If somebody is different and has certain strengths, the mechanism above applies as well, because every such group will certainly find something that makes this otherwise strong person an idiot. If the strengths are politeness and respect towards teachers, they will say it is currying a favor with the teacher. If the strength is intelligence, they will say it is smugness. You get the picture. And besides that, everybody has weaknesses that are willingly exploited. And if there are none, they are easily made up... 'hey, this guy's name starts with a 'P'... like poop ahahaha, poopy etc..'

So, this is why I said that a solution can only be found within the person who is being mocked.
This is why bullying needs kicking out of schools.
Is the topic author from the UK, I get bullied a bit. For schooling, the UK is crap. Theres this guy who gets pissed off all the time from the chavs. and he says stuff like "Stop trying to control me" and "Get out of my life". Is that mega aspergers or is it Schiz?

erkolos Wrote:
An article which I don't remember where to find comes to mind.

A person with AS told his story about when he went to school he was very successful compared to the other students, so the teacher showed him as an ideal for the other students. The other students would ofcourse not be like him and wanted to be the opposite of him. So they intentionally did bad at school and alot of things against the rules. They disliked the teacher and anyone who "showed loyalty" to him.

The conclusion of the story was that aspies should keep their good progress at school low.


Or that aspies can be considered geniuses in comparison to the other kids when a teacher is dumb enough to put the kid on the spot like that.

Lienda Balla

Prufrock Wrote:
Since when was it okay to call me stupid?

Why is this so hard for me?


It's never ok for them to call bad names, but usualy they call someone else stupid because they know they stupid are themselves. Well, reality in adult hood is going to hit them ever the harder, and they will realise that the adult world will take effort and brain cells, amung other things. They will finally start grasping how dumb it is to be a lazy butt head who makes alot of enimies by calling other people stupid. That is, unless they aren't the kind that grow up at all. Some people never grow up, they are born jerks and die old as jerks. 'sigh'

Lienda Balla Wrote:

Prufrock Wrote:
Since when was it okay to call me stupid?

Why is this so hard for me?


It's never ok for them to call bad names, but usualy they call someone else stupid because they know they stupid are themselves. Well, reality in adult hood is going to hit them ever the harder, and they will realise that the adult world will take effort and brain cells, amung other things.

They will finally start grasping how dumb it is to be a lazy butt head who makes alot of enimies by calling other people stupid. That is, unless they aren't the kind that grow up at all. Some people never grow up, they are born jerks and die old as jerks. 'sigh'

They often end up in prison or in other bad circumstances, but sadly, a proportion of them finish up as bosses.

Don't you need lots of money to get into a good university? I wonder if there would be scholarships to apply for. That could help bright students whose families don't have much money.
Having strong communication skills is very important in how others view you, especially when considering NTs. You can be very smart, but if you have trouble conveying your intelligence through speech many will think that you're not smart. Grades should be evidence to the contrary, but grades aren't always public knowledge.
blacktext is very correct.
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