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Just an anecdote, but I told my primary care physician what Max said (because weight loss has strong implications for close relationships, weight loss is a physical problem with emotional and social implications, I am 120 pounds overweight, 288 when I should be not more than 169).

She suggested age 40 instead.

And suggested dating older women.

It did work for my younger brother until Mom gave him grief about it, woman age 55 from Latvia, when he was 30.

On the issue of weight, the average Caucasian male weighs 179 pounds.  If I am a few standard deviations above the mean, I think the women would notice.  

I am suggesting that a woman might pass the pressure or prejudice to lose weight along.  Asian women on average weigh least, followed by the Caucasians.  Then the African-American and Latina women.

Anecdotally my direct experience is mixed.  I have dated African American and Caucasian in roughly equal numbers, albeit rarely and not right now, but only one Korean and no Latinas, even though I live in a Spanish speaking neighborhood.   The Korean, who had both a Korean and American name, actually brought up the subject of endogamy (I am not Korean).


Max the Bear Wrote:
Rossco, I'm talking on the basis of what I've seen again and again -- girls of 18-22 get married to "cool guys" who are assholes and by 27-30-something the girls (now women) are sick of the guy and ask themselves "What was I thinking??"

That's when the nice guy -- whom they probably considered a nerd in high school -- strats seeming like a very good idea.

The age at first marriage consideration has strong implications for most of us, at least for me.  Most of my women friends were married by 25, one closer to 30.  

We actually are witnessing a 14 year marriage ending in divorce.  The woman graduated with me and I remember her wedding late in 1993.  That would have made her 23 or 24 at the time, too.

Nice going, S____.   You married a winner.

In another marriage, the guy is less considerable of her security needs?  Damn, man, I read What Women Want Men to Know About Women by Barbara de Angelis and the barest thing I remember is C.V.S.: women need to be connected, valued, and safe?  I am also reading a few other titles.

Don't you just love rubbing it in?  

Or at least the implicit knowledge that you are getting better and better when someone else doesn't give as big a damn as you would?

Sometimes she picks a winner.  I believe one friend did, actually.  

I admit I did not know all the amazing things I've read, and lived, at 25, 12 years ago.  That I was not ready to marry at 25, but the difference was I did not.  Being ruled out on the issue of nerddom gets personal and painful.  

This is from the Wrong Planet website and it may help explain things.
My critique: if a woman is depending on subtle nonverbal cues to trust a man, all it takes is one sociopath who can play the game to make her life a mess.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?n...roovyDruid

We don't play games.  We're serious and to the point.  And when we commit to something like a career or a person, we can all but move a mountain.
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