Aspies For Freedom

Meh at least you get the Telegraph..

All I saw this in was the *** Daily Mail >.<

As I said before in a different thread, no way did Cho have Asperger's. Takes one to know one, and he ain't one.  He knew exactly how to read people, and moreover, he used his knack for reading people to scare the bejeezus out of them, because he was a remorseless sociopath.
Aspies might "lack a theory of mind" (whatever that's supposed to mean) but they generally avoid physically harming people.

Anyone see that **** awful article in the daily mail? came out with some *** around how Seung-Hui was diagnosed autistic at age 8, then in the same paragraph, talked about how from age 8 (this is RIGHT after the autism comments, mind you) beat the living *** out of his sister.

Went on in a similarly nasty vein, for a while, then damned if it didn't rephrase the same crap again, and make autism sound like a dirty word, or more like, a synonym for being a violent psychopathic gobshite.

I fired off a letter as soon as I finished reading that little gem, pointing that out, along with a few other things, I reckon it might be a good thing if a few others of us in the autie community did the same thing.

While I disagree with the rest of his post, as always he's not *all* wrong:

"Problems are not solved by hiding information"

Too true, although what he reads into the information isn't what actually happened in this case - that autism didn't "make him do it" should be clear. Yes it can in some cause certain obsessive and even aggressive behaviours (rare but it happens) that can become very dangerous but it is never the SOLE cause of a person's actions.

"People who are strange don't have friends and no ammount of societal do-gooding is going to change that."

Again, while "fon't have friends" (at all) is an exaggeration, it is true that do-gooding and political correctness will never make the very real problems eperienced by many on the spectrum go away. If people with autism start blaming NTs for the way they are wired (socially etc.) they are no better than the NTs who blame an autistic person for the way he or she is wired...

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DON'T have friends not fon't! I corrected that and all and typed it wrong a second time!

My own community college has been sending e-mails to students assuring them that they have security procedures in place in the event of any event such as that which happened at Virginia Tech. The e-mails do not mention autism.

I'm wondering whether it would make sense for me to send a reply to the administration to the effect that people with AS are not more likely than anyone else to be violent. Would such an e-mail help, or would it just place into the admins' heads the idea that AS=violence, since I myself am an Aspie and might simply be defending others of "my kind"?

i'm just concerned that we may be quietly 'removed' from places like colleges and workplaces.
after all,they now have the precedent..

to further my above comment:

they may use 'erratic behaviors' or 'potentially offensive' behavior as excuses to have us removed.

i will personally be carrying a Dictaphone to college and spare tapes for the next few months,so if it happens i can *** well prove it.you wont catch me without a fight...(please not i am in a really aggressive mood tonight.(also note,lurkers,that i haven't reached for my Bows-not that i have any decent string at the moment-or my Swords)

Quite freaked out Silly NTs.

Although, I'd be happier around an autistic gun nut than a non-autistic gun nut. Having a liking for order would probably mean you'd observe proper safety precautions... unlike, say, a certain Vice President.

Who are these individuals you are talking about?

I fit Kanner's autism criteria, just barely. Still consider myself an Aspie, though--no speech delay. The whole diagnosis thing is kind of silly, actually--autistic is autistic, and each case is just so very different from all the others that you'd have to make hundreds of categories, or else just make one category and list specific features in each case (which is much simpler).

Kylo, you're referring to childhood disintegrative disorder, right? CDD is the type of autism where regression occurs after a year or two of superficially normal development--the child loses speech and communication skills previously gained. That's opposed to Kanner's autism, where communication is delayed/idiosyncratic to begin with; Asperger's, where communication, but not speech, is impaired; and Rett Syndrome, which is a lot like CDD except that it occurs only in females and involves characteristic stims.

The addresses for the daily mail as requested, sorry I was a little late getting round to it, but I had the flu, and couldn't face tearing myself away from my bed and my weed

letters@dailymail.co.uk

and the postal address:Letters,The Daily Mail, Northcliffe House, 2 Derry Street, London W8 5TT

http: //www.  dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=449957&in_page_id=1811 Link broken, the article really isn't a pretty thing to behold, personally, I would dearly love to give the author of this particular, delightful piece of misinformative crap a good toeing, but sadly, implanting my size 11 newrocks between his legs would kind of defeat the object of killing the rumor that auties are violent.....

Anyway, this is all moot. We will never know exactly what his problem was. Maybe he was autistic (but I doubt it) or paranoid schizophrenic or narcissistic or any other condition in a litany of mental states. I mean, who cares??!!! Whatever he was, it was clear that he was violent and dangerous.
Nobody like that should be allowed anywhere near a firearm, any more than a blind person should be allowed to get behind the wheel of a car.

"violent and dangerous" could be anyone given reason to be that way

You're entitled to believe that, it was your statements about autism I was objecting to first and foremost (i.e comments that seemed to imply you can't have autism if you speak and suchlike)