"almost every such character has been described as loners."
... there's a thread around here somewhere about "Aspies = Serial Killers"
Stage 3 of Genocide: Dehumanization.
It worked on Down Syndrome, now it's our turn.
I think he is currently being pegged as "Bi-Polar."
Also, his writings are no worse than Stephen King, the Hannibel Lecter stuff, Bret Easton Ellis' American Psycho and much much much more we see in the movies.
He wasn't an Engineering major by the way; but an English major.
I thought his plays and writings indicated most likely he was molested as a child and perhaps that is what really screwed him up.
the other 6 billion Asians.
Almost everyone in the world is asian? that's news to me.
Wikipedia (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population):
estimated 4 billion in asia by 2010
and there's probably less than 2 billion asians living outside of asia (unless what I said before is correct) so I' not sure what you mean.
Change I to you
need an edit button!
Atlanta Korean community: 'How sorry we feel'
Sorry for WHAT? It was one lunatic with a gun who coincidentally happened to be Korean. They have nothing at all to be "sorry" for. I really have a hard time maintaining patience with these irrational monkeys that surround me. I'm referring to the people who would make society to the state where the Korean community in Atlanta would feel any need to apologize.
they're trying to avoid the backlash that comes with this sort of event. Remember what happened to the muslim community after 9/11? People (plural) aren't rational
they're trying to avoid the backlash
Backlash--and the monkeys like to think that THEY are "normal" and WE are "disordered" or diseased.
I don't think think it'll come up that he was an Aspie, if that be the case or not. We can't be sure now. However I think the news has had an affect on people enough in what max searched for on the web. If they wanted to put the blame on someone they've done it already. Another example of this is of the Japanese-American community during WWII.
He first came to America with his family when he was 8 years old, fourteen years of living here until the VA Tech shooting.
At college teachers and students alike comented about his demeenor. His english teacher referred him to the school counselor which was thne recomended to a mental institution, but he never went. Fellow students sometimes didn't even show up to class because Cho was in the same class as them.
It was either specualted or proven that he was the one who started the campus fires in a room on campus. It's also speculated he was behind the bomb threats to the school two weeks leading up to the shooting.
The morning of the shooting he sent out a packege to NBC with numerous video clips and photos along with a 28(?) page rant.
Only three question I have are 1) If this kid was such a danger to society, why wasn't he made to commit or any action taken? 2) What made him change his mind during the 14 years he was here to do this? 3) if he hated America so much why didn't he just move away? He was an adult, he could move back to South Korea if he wanted.
. . . honestly . . . what happened there was sick.
If he had AS, why would he have sent those photos and that document that no one could decipher? The entire thing was incoherent, or filled with profanity. And that violent of a rage . . . most AS people wouldn't commit a mass shooting.
Correction on my part . . . I seriously cannot see any AS person doing something like that.
But I do wonder what set this kid off to do something like this . . . it could not just be the constant teasing.
It makes me sad that now loners will be targeted, as someone has stated.
I don't really talk to people, but I do hang out in two to three person crowds. And now, because of that, people who are not 'socialable' are going to be targeted . . . that just sucks.
As I watched interview after interview with students and staff who shared their observations about who Cho was... loner, not able to look at people, lacked social skills, very bright but odd...my autism antenna went up. How can the autism community who is always seeking truth for causes, cures be so blind in recognizing the symptoms that we all know so well.....as autism with Cho?
Because the autism commmunity doesn't want to have the legacy of what Cho did connected to the autism disability. Truth is truth...
Autism did not kill all the people at VT. An individual, Cho, was diagnosed with autism, had exhibited traits of autism for years with NO interventions or support... But he was smart, and Korean.. and his family had a difficult time acknowleding the problem (sound familiar) and they were poor and didn't know what their rights were under IDEA to acquire the needed interventions for their son in the public school... That the public education system failed to intervene in Cho's life is a wake up call for all parents who are trying to secure services for their child to be proactive, diligent and help your child. I know children and adults with autism do not typically have violent tendencies or hurt others... But for this individual, Cho, he was unable to cope with life's problems -
There are hundreds of children who take their own lives in our country with invisible disabilities like Autism, ADD, who are unable to cope with the challenges they face in school.. and without interventions and adults that are willing to accept responsibility for doing the right thing for the children in our country -
Monica Moshenko
Parent, Advocate and Host
DisAbility News & Views Radio
What will happen when thousands of children with autism spectrum disorders - now one in 150 being diagnosed, as they enter school systems across the country.... Will the child that is smart, a loner, socially inept, a minority receive the interventions that they are suppose to receive under Federal and state laws in school?
It is not just autistics who go through such life problems. If we are denying anything it would be that he was autistic, because there is simply no evidence to support that he was or wasn't autistic.
Cho was a disturbed individual. Not only was he a loner, bright, nonsociable, but he was a stalker he stalked two women he would take pictures with his camera phone of the girls in class under the desk of their legs and knees. He set fire to a building on campus before the shooting. It was even believed he made up a girlfriend for him to have and that the first shooting was because of that, he dreamed up a relationship that just wasn't there.
This is not the behavior of an Autistic.
Noetic, that response wasn't to you (who I tend to agree with) it was to DisAbilityAdvocate. Autistics don't make up imaginary girlfriends and talk to them, schizophrenics do. Because he exhibited one sign that may have some correlation with autism, doesn't mean he has/had it. I find it very offensive that people would say that. This would damage the autistic community a lot. I'd rather not be feared as a crazy potential killer.
Yes but still, as a heavily bullied victim who has been assaulted on several occasions for no reason other than the amusement of the bullies, and the person who the corrupt vp did nothing to the bulllies and blamed me. For example there was an empty bus, the bully walked up to me (I was at the very back) and told me to get out of his seat, I said no, and he bruised my arm and threw me out. The vp said "it could have all been avoided if you moved." The guy got off. I was at the short end of thew stick and literally spit on, but still I did not once violently fight back or think of doing serious harm to them. For three years I endured that abuse, and I still went home and was pleasant with my family. I just find it absurd that someone would go that far. I would always, always have the courts decide then to be violent.
i still dont get it though.
so if you are a loner you have aspergers?
thats quite a good way to diagnose ppl.
"you are a loner, you are autistic"
hasent anyone heard about schizophrenics being loners?
all the schizophrenics i know are loners.
It's amazing how many personality systems have attempted to see character as being essentially a division of three.
Not at all, given the strength and pervasiveness of Indo-European cultures and language speakers, worldwide. Dumezil's model is still pretty much valid, although it can be fleshed out with a bipartite division between "light" and "shadow" forms of each of the three indo-european archetypes.
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