Max the Bear wrote: ""He was a loner, and we're having difficulty finding information about him," school spokesman Larry Hincker said."
A loner... at an engineering school... hmmm.... verrrrrry suspicious....
Who will be the first journalist/sensationalist to speculate...."
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Max, I hope and pray this doesn't happen. With all of the finger pointing and trying to find a scapegoat, this would be the worst possible thing to happen to our community.
It was also reported; Police found a note in which Cho listed “random grievances,” but few other details were available. “He was very quiet, always by himself,” said a neighbor. Cho spent a lot of his free time playing basketball and would not respond if someone greeted him.
No one knew him? No one knew him and he was a senior? So sad from every angle.
Max the Bear wrote: ""He was a loner, and we're having difficulty finding information about him," school spokesman Larry Hincker said."
A loner... at an engineering school... hmmm.... verrrrrry suspicious....
Studying English though, and seemingly already flagged up for "very disturbing" things he wrote in creative writing. Shame they couldn't help him before he snapped 
What was his motive?
No one knows for sure yet, but I have seen one report saying it could be that he was angry/depressed about his girlfriend splitting up with him. She was one of the first people to be killed, I think.
There is still not much information about him. I read that one of his instructors advised him to seek counselling since his writing had so much violent content. No one from his high school years has said anything about him. He went to high school in America.
Some of his dorm flat mates said that he mostly kept to himself. He downloaded music, slept from 9 pm to 7 am or got up earlier the past while. He worked out in the gym or played with a ball (I guess by himself). He did not talk much to anyone. He told his room mate that he was studying business and not English. That makes me think that he was ashamed to be studying English, so why lie? Probably all the damage was done to him in high school and no one ever noticed or tried to help when he was younger. That is why they are not talking about him. He was old enough to ask for help for himself at some point.
What do you think? I need more information about him.
Sad what happened.
"Senior Shane Moore, a 21-year-old resident of Woodbridge, Va., described an encounter with Cho two years ago at a campus dining hall.
Moore's friend and dining companion, Joseph Boayue III of Bristow, Va., had attended Westfield High with Cho, Moore said. The two spotted Cho dining alone, and Boayue decided to approach him, Moore said.
"I'm going to get him to talk to me," Moore recalled Boayue telling him. Boayue always said hello to Cho when he saw him on campus, but Cho wouldn't even look at him, Moore said.
That day at the dining hall, Moore said, Boayue and Moore sat down with Cho. Boayue reminded Cho about their shared high school days, Boayue cracked a joke and Cho laughed, Moore said. The three had a brief conversation, Moore said, and then they parted ways."
Not looking at someone when they talk to you or not responding to their questions. --- well that apparently is so evil to NT's. They never considered that maybe he was deaf (oh, they looked for hearing aids and couldn't see them) or maybe he had autism. When people are thought to be evil and expected to do evil, sometimes they just live up to other people's expectations on purpose.
A black friend of mine said that the minute she heard about the massacre, her first thought was "Oh, God -- please don't let the killer be black."
The media desperately wants to reassure the world that only "The Other" is capable of such a horrible crime. Yes, they want him to be black (although mass killing and serial killing is an almost exclusively white hobby) or Aspie (although being a loner is an attribute of several other, more potentially violent personality traits) or gay -- and yes, the right-wing media has already started that speculation, even though Cho seemed romantically obsessed with females.
Oh I don't know about that. The fact that the killer was Asian and so am I means nothing too me. A few years ago another Asian guy went on a shooting rampage where he worked here in Hawaii so I would'nt consider serial killing a white hobby either.
Oh I don't know about that. The fact that the killer was Asian and so am I means nothing too me.
It doesn't mean anything to me either but there is a certain type of person (and the media seems to pick up on this and hype it) who seem very keen on diverting such "crazy people" into whatever ethnic or other groups they can, just so they can say "it's one of them who did it" and not "one of ours". Plus if someone already had an irrational hatred of Asians, of course they're going to jump on this.
Welcome to Amerikkka.
My point is that whenever a white psycho kills a couple of dozen people, he is judged as an individual psycho -- no one says "Gee, we need to do something about these damn white people."
But if it's a person of color-- or any other "stigmatized status" -- America eagerly and invariably attributes a good chunk of the monstrousness to the killer's "other" status -- whether it's Korean, black, gay, Aspie, or whatever.
I agree that "the Korean community" has nothing to apologize for. But they know America well enough to know there will be collective blame dumped on all Koreans ...and, by extension, Asians -- of whom we will have a complete and accurate tally as soon as Acebrock completes his head-count.
I suppose that depends on where in Amerikkka you live. I live in Hawaii and the demographics here are completely different than in the rest of the country. When Byran Uyesugi shot several of his coworkers here, his race or ethnicity was not an issue simply because he is part of the majority here. He was just considered a psycho as if he were white and committed his crime on the mainland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byran_Uyesugi
Why were students intimidated by Cho taking their photo? I would have got the college to stop him from doing that and not left class because of it. The college could have made him leave class for threatening people if he did that.
I noticed how there has been no mention of Cho from anyone who knew him at high school. Was he bullied there? I seem to think so.
How Cho was treated in high school.
Cho picked on in school, classmates say
Student accounts add to psychological portrait beginning to take shape
By Matt Appuzzo
The Associated Press
Originally published April 19, 2007, 2:19 PM EDT
BLACKSBURG, Va. // Long before he boiled over, Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui was picked on, pushed around and laughed at over his shyness and the strange way he talked when he was a schoolboy in the Washington suburbs, former classmates say.
Chris Davids, a Virginia Tech senior who graduated from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Va., with Cho in 2003, recalled that the South Korean immigrant almost never opened his mouth and would ignore attempts to strike up a conversation.
Once, in English class, the teacher had the students read aloud, and when it was Cho's turn, he just looked down in silence, Davids recalled. Finally, after the teacher threatened him with an F for participation, Cho started to read in a strange, deep voice that sounded "like he had something in his mouth," Davids said.
"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said.
Cho shot 32 people to death and committed suicide Monday in the deadliest one-man shooting rampage in modern U.S. history. The high school classmates' accounts add to the psychological portrait that is beginning to take shape, and could shed light on the video rant Cho mailed to NBC in the middle of his rampage at Virginia Tech.
In the often-incoherent video, the 23-year-old Cho portrays himself as persecuted and rants about rich kids.
"Your Mercedes wasn't enough, you brats," says Cho, who came to the U.S. at about age 8 in 1992 and whose parents work at a dry cleaners in suburban Washington. "Your golden necklaces weren't enough, you snobs. Your trust funds wasn't enough. Your vodka and cognac wasn't enough. All your debaucheries weren't enough. Those weren't enough to fulfill your hedonistic needs. You had everything."
Among the victims of the massacre were two other Westfield High graduates: Reema Samaha and Erin Peterson. Both young women graduated from the high school last year. Police said it is not clear whether Cho singled them out.
Stephanie Roberts, 22, a fellow member of Cho's graduating class at Westfield High, said she never witnessed anyone picking on Cho in high school.
"I just remember he was a shy kid who didn't really want to talk to anybody," she said. "I guess a lot of people felt like maybe there was a language barrier."
But she said friends of hers who went to middle school with Cho told her they recalled him getting picked on there.
"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."
Virginia Tech student Alison Heck said a suitemate of hers on campus -- Christina Lilick -- found a mysterious question mark scrawled on the dry erase board on her door. Lilick went to the same high school as Cho, according to Lilick's Facebook page. Cho once scrawled a question mark on the sign-in sheet on the first day of a literature class, and other students came to know him as "the question mark kid."
"I don't know if she knew that it was him for sure," Heck said. "I do remember that that fall that she was being stalked and she had mentioned the question mark. And there was a question mark on her door."
Heck added: "She just let us know about it just in case there was a strange person walking around our suite."
Lilick could not immediately be located for comment, via e-mail or telephone.
Regan Wilder, 21, who attended Virginia Tech, high school and middle school with Cho, said she was in several classes with Cho in high school, including advanced-placement calculus and Spanish. She said he walked around with his head down, and almost never spoke. And when he did, it was "a real low mutter, like a whisper."
As part of an exam in Spanish class, students had to answer questions in Spanish on tape, and other students were so curious to know what Cho sounded like that they waited eagerly for the teacher to play his recording, she said. She said that on the tape, he did not speak confidently but did seem to know Spanish.
Wilder recalled high school teachers trying to get him to participate, but "he would only shrug his shoulders or he'd give like two-word responses, and I think it just got to the point where teachers just gave up because they realized he wasn't going to come out of the shell he was in, so they just kind of passed him over for the most part as time went on."
She said she was sure Cho probably was picked on in middle school, but so was everyone else. And it didn't seem as if English was the problem for him, she said. If he didn't speak English well, there were several other Korean students he could have reached out to for friendship, but he didn't, she said.
Wilder said Cho wasn't any friendlier in college, where "he always had that same damn blank stare, like glare, on his face. And I'd always try to make eye contact with him because I recognized the kid because I'd seen him for six years, but he'd always just look right past you like you weren't there."
In other developments, Gov. Timothy Kaine is appointing a five- to seven-member panel to investigate the shootings, the governor's office said. The panel will review Cho's mental health history and how police responded to the tragedy. The panel will submit a report in two to three months.
University officials also announced that all of Cho's student victims would be awarded degrees posthumously, and that other students terrorized by the shootings might be allowed to end the semester immediately without consequences.
Associated Press writers Allen G. Breed, Vicki Smith, Sue Lindsey and Justin Pope in Blacksburg, Va., Matt Barakat in Richmond, Va., Colleen Long and Tom Hays in New York, and Lara Jakes Jordan and Sarah Karush in Washington contributed to this report.
Have any of you read the report that says Cho might have been autistic? I think I read somewhere that his great aunt said that.
Found this quote in another forum but can't find the source:
[qoute]Cho's great-aunt, Kim Yang-soon, said Cho was diagnosed with autism after he came to the United States in 1992. Speaking from her home in South Korea, she described Cho as "very cold" and said her niece was constantly worried about him.
"Every time I called and asked how he was, she would say she was worried about him," Kim said, according to a translation from the AP. "Who would have known he would cause such trouble, the idiot."
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If this is true than Cho's race does have some significance to me because that would be two things we have in common. I hope this is not true.
You're right in saying that Hawaii is different in regards to Asian Americans. During WWII the 150,000 Japanese Americans of Hawaii weren't indiscriminately put into internment camps, unlike the 100,000+ Japanese Americans of the US West Coast, because the government, media, and business community of Hawaii fought against it.
The simple reason why they weren't put into camps is that could never intern that many people. People of Japanese or partial Japanese descent make up almost half the population here.
"B" probably describes me best but I take it that "C" is how Mr Cho interpreted the world.
It's doubtful anybody could have talked him out of these paranoid and delusional thoughts, but appropriate medication could have headed off the disaster.
But wasn't he on medication?
That is the most sensible reply, who know's the facts, yep my autism radar went up too, noted his neutral facial expression's.
A lot of us need help, I need help I ain't getting it and have not had it until recently. I am not violent, can get lippy, verbally aggressive out of frustration. Let's not forget here the route cause of the problem, the easy access to gun's in the US. People are going to hum and har about he had this he did this because he was this....
Do we here in the paper's about the huge amounts of people who kill themselves because of bullying, mental illness etc, I know of many people who have lost their lives to mental illness. This guy was messed up, angry, bitter and he had a *** gun. Hell I hear you can pop into ya local supermarket and buy amunition like I can pop to the shop to buy fags, need to sort that out.
Exactly, Amen to that. Sure, gun crimes are rising here too but I am rather shocked that barely anyone even seems to bat an eyelid about the fact that he had those guns in the first place