04-16-2007, 09:46 AM
04-22-2007, 11:26 AM
This might not make me very popular but I really don't see much point in having autlang.
04-26-2007, 08:29 PM
Dr. Ando Wrote:
To be perfectly honest, this doesn't seem to be a good idea.
Which? Autlang is not a good idea, or revising/redoing it is not a good idea?
04-27-2007, 04:16 AM
I as well just don't see the point in it. I could see it as possibly being easier for someone with LFA to learn to understand as opposed to English, but what benefit would that have when they leave whatever environment where it's being taught? I could just see someone finally learning a language and for the first time in their life finally being able to communicate verbally, only to go anywhere outside of their educational environment and be back to square one.
I'm not saying it's not a good idea, it's just that to me it doesn't seem very practical. The individual's native language (in this case English) is far more practical to understand than a language that nobody outside the Autistic community will understand or care to learn. And if it's used so that people outside the Autistic community can't overhear conversations, that's just being rude.
I'm not saying it's not a good idea, it's just that to me it doesn't seem very practical. The individual's native language (in this case English) is far more practical to understand than a language that nobody outside the Autistic community will understand or care to learn. And if it's used so that people outside the Autistic community can't overhear conversations, that's just being rude.
04-27-2007, 11:42 AM
normally_impaired Wrote:
I as well just don't see the point in it.  I could see it as possibly being easier for someone with LFA to learn to understand as opposed to English, but what benefit would that have when they leave whatever environment where it's being taught?  I could just see someone finally learning a language and for the first time in their life finally being able to communicate verbally, only to go anywhere outside of their educational environment and be back to square one.
I'm not saying it's not a good idea, it's just that to me it doesn't seem very practical.  The individual's native language (in this case English) is far more practical to understand than a language that nobody outside the Autistic community will understand or care to learn.  And if it's used so that people outside the Autistic community can't overhear conversations, that's just being rude.
I'm not saying it's not a good idea, it's just that to me it doesn't seem very practical.  The individual's native language (in this case English) is far more practical to understand than a language that nobody outside the Autistic community will understand or care to learn.  And if it's used so that people outside the Autistic community can't overhear conversations, that's just being rude.
Exactly what I've been getting at all this time.
05-24-2007, 04:49 AM
Pakrat Wrote:
normally_impaired Wrote:
I as well just don't see the point in it.  I could see it as possibly being easier for someone with LFA to learn to understand as opposed to English, but what benefit would that have when they leave whatever environment where it's being taught?  I could just see someone finally learning a language and for the first time in their life finally being able to communicate verbally, only to go anywhere outside of their educational environment and be back to square one.
I'm not saying it's not a good idea, it's just that to me it doesn't seem very practical.  The individual's native language (in this case English) is far more practical to understand than a language that nobody outside the Autistic community will understand or care to learn.  And if it's used so that people outside the Autistic community can't overhear conversations, that's just being rude.
I'm not saying it's not a good idea, it's just that to me it doesn't seem very practical.  The individual's native language (in this case English) is far more practical to understand than a language that nobody outside the Autistic community will understand or care to learn.  And if it's used so that people outside the Autistic community can't overhear conversations, that's just being rude.
Exactly what I've been getting at all this time.
I see what you mean, but I would think that learning to communicate vocally in general would be a good-thing... people could get used to it in a way that would be more comfortable, then go on to learning to speak vocally in the language of whatever country they're from...
Of course, I really know nothing about language or anything. So I don't know.
05-24-2007, 09:05 AM
I wanna know more about the grammar of autlang: Is it agglutinative?What about ergativity?
It seems to me that aspies would probably be better at speaking agglutinative languages with extreme combinatorial complexity as opposed to tonal languages(like chinese) or other indo-european toungues.
It seems to me that aspies would probably be better at speaking agglutinative languages with extreme combinatorial complexity as opposed to tonal languages(like chinese) or other indo-european toungues.
05-28-2007, 08:25 AM
It seems we already have a common language here. If you hate English because of the annoying rule-exceptions (like no other historical language has them) or its mongrel-like absorption of other vocabularies, then maybe you should devote yourself to Esperanto. That's the only "artificial" human language that comes to mind. Luckily I seem to have enough capacity that I don't mind the exceptions and the mongrel vocabulary just means more expressive choices for me to abuse.
Autlang seems like a poor excuse for a language to me. You couldn't bribe me to use it.
Autlang seems like a poor excuse for a language to me. You couldn't bribe me to use it.
05-28-2007, 12:41 PM
Actually, I think it would be a good idea to make a language like Esperanto only without the Western European bias.
05-28-2007, 01:05 PM
What about autistic people who don't speak?
05-28-2007, 03:06 PM
anbuend Wrote:
I've mostly been staying out of the idea of whether autlang should exist, because I'm not good at learning languages like that and unlikely to benefit from it.
But I still would like to see (perhaps as an additional project) short words or phrases in English that can be used to succinctly describe a number of experiences common among autistic people.
My personal preference is that they not sound medical or like jargon or buzzwords or psychobabble and that they not be basically tacked-together Greek word-roots, but that's, again, personal. (I have often an aversion to the first three kinds of words and an inability to comprehend the fourth.)
But I still would like to see (perhaps as an additional project) short words or phrases in English that can be used to succinctly describe a number of experiences common among autistic people.
My personal preference is that they not sound medical or like jargon or buzzwords or psychobabble and that they not be basically tacked-together Greek word-roots, but that's, again, personal. (I have often an aversion to the first three kinds of words and an inability to comprehend the fourth.)
Seems as if this would be the best way to go with any kind of autlang.
05-28-2007, 04:35 PM
When making a language, you need a lot more than just words. It also has to have a syntax too, such as how to make phrases, etc. Not only that but it needs rules regarding how each letter or grouping of letters will sound. You can't just take a bunch of letters and mush them together.
05-29-2007, 11:57 AM
ra la autlang ki?
ji la autlang en edind tun autlang
although,that said,its syntax can be somewhat irritating at first.
ji la autlang en edind tun autlang
although,that said,its syntax can be somewhat irritating at first.
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