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I don't mind being analyzed, though you must have read through a lot of posts to know that I speed while driving (that was way back there, I believe). I will say, however, that I actually do strive to obay rules. Speeding is the only illegal thing I do (and only because the speed limits here are designed for drunken hicks), and I'm actually really strict about following traffic rules in particular. I don't know about being a type seven... There's a lot of things that don't really fit me. Here are some of the things mentioned on the site about this type:

People of this personality type are essentially concerned that their lives be an exciting adventure.
I try to avoid excessive excitement. I am emetophobic and even positive excitement can turn into anxiety and then trigger a panic attack (emetophobia is a terrible fear to have in this sense because anxiousness triggers nausea and nausea triggers more anxiousness - a vicious cycle).

Sevens are future oriented, restless people who are generally convinced that something better is just around the corner.
Heh... Ironically, I rarely think about the future (or the past for that matter).

They are quick thinkers who have a great deal of energy and who make lots of plans.
Ugh, I hate making plans. I wouldn't say I have tons of energy either, especially in social situations.

Sevens are practical people who have multiple skills. They know how to network and to promote themselves and their interests. They often have an entrepreneurial spirit and are able to convey their enthusiasm to those with whom they come in contact. When they are able to focus their talents, they are often highly successful.
That kind of sounds like me except for the networking/entrepeneurial spirit/conveying enthusiasm parts. I don't really do enthusiasm (or at least I don't show it).

Focusing does not always come easily for Sevens, however. Their tendency to believe that something better awaits them, makes them reluctant to narrow down their options or to pursue their aims with true devotion.
That's like the opposite of me. I've been certain that I wanted to major in Animal Biology/Zoology (specializing in herpetology or ichthyology) ever since I was in sixth grade.

For this reason, Sevens are more prone than most to addictions of all sorts, whether it be to shopping, gambling, drugs or whatever.
I have an anti-addictive personality.

Sevens usually have a high opinion of themselves and their talents; they tend to focus on their strengths and virtues and to downplay their flaws and vices. They are often a bit self-centered which manifests in an unfounded feeling of entitlement. As Sevens don't want to confront their own darker emotions, they also have difficulty acknowledging the pain that others experience, so that they sometimes have a hard time seeing the reality of other people. The extent of the Seven's flight from negative emotions is really a measure of the Seven's mental health; the more that the Seven flees from them, the more their strength grows and the more likely they are to erupt into consciousness in the form of an anxiety disorder or a severe depressive episode.
That kind of sounds like me I guess, though somewhat exaggerated. I don't have too many dark emotions, and the ones I do have I don't really have any problems "confronting", and they aren't the cause of my anxiety either (a specific phobia is). Also, I rarely get depressed.

Overall, I feel that like most people on here, type five fits the best. Pretty much all of it applies to me except for the "people of this personality type essentially fear that they don't have enough inner strength to face life, so they tend to withdraw, to retreat into the safety and security of the mind where they can mentally prepare for their emergence into the world" part. Five with a nine "wing" I guess.

Yetti Wrote:
My husbands former company once used a service like this for NT etc etc. It just cost a lot of money and really did not tell anyone something they already did not know... I don't see where it helped them.. like horoscope stuff.  You get these things all the time.. some new gimmick for filing and labeling people's personalities...  It does nothing for a company.


It isn't remotely like "horoscope stuff" and you don't know enough to make that judgment, but you're in attack/reject mode now, so you're not open to hearing anything. It would appear you have nothing further to contribute.

Don't worry about Yetti leaving, Five.

No one in the history of the Internet has ever said, "Well, that's it. I'm leaving," and actually  left.

anbuend Wrote:
No one in the history of the Internet has ever said, "Well, that's it. I'm leaving," and actually  left.

it creates all kinds of sudden posts on other people's parts on the order of "Don't leave," which when I really do want to leave at least for that point, is heavily annoying.)


LOL -- but that's usually the point don't you think? It's to get people to beg them to stay. Whereas those who want them to leave just remain silent with their fingers crossed...

Here's the Enneagram class at San Francisco State University that I'll be taking:

http://www.cel.sfsu.edu/coaching/classes.cfm?selection=classes&ID=936104&Period=20074
Too much $$$ for me.

Have you seen Don Richard Riso before? He claims to be a 4, but he sure seems fiveish (and Aspie-ish) to me. His work seems much better (and he seems much more self-aware) in the years since he and Hudson got together.
Energia, I wish you could meet Helen Palmer -- you would love her; a wonderful person and still my favorite Enneagram teacher. Her work has led her more toward the study of intuition, but what a great natural-born teacher she is.

Do you live in the Bay Area, or are you traveling to the conference?
Necrobump for the Enneagram:

Free Ennegram test at this site:

Go to:

http://www.enneagram.net/tests/paidlogin.aspx

Use the code:  Tritype808

According to this test, I'm a Four. Okay, fine. I'll be a four. But PLEASE a five wing, not a three. And I'm guessing a so/se subtype stacking...

energeia Wrote:
Max--soc/sx stacking for you makes sense.  That's my stacking also.
Natalie--you're in good company here being a 5.

Note: the link to the test that Max posted will only work for a couple more days.  
There's a different free online test you can take linked below (take the classical)
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php


By that test, I am definitely a 4, but with a bit more 3 wing than 5. yukk

energeia Wrote:

Same type as Don Riso, eh?  (Don't barf, don't beat me, I'm just giving you a hard time)
I don't see much 3 or 9 in you, based on what I've observed so far.



My three really showed when I was acting and directing. That's part of why I quit -- I really don't like having that Three rear its ugly head.

I have absolutely no Nine whatsoever -- On several enneagram tests I've scored ZERO on nine.

Alias Pseudonym Wrote:
Tried the other test, exactly the same results; very high 9 score, slightly lower 5, much lower 1 and very low other scores.  Self-preservation variant, no surprise there.  I think 9w1 is correct.



"Correct" is the correct word for a 1 wing. Wink

I agree the 8/9 combination seems counter-intuitive, but I've known a couple of 8w9 or 9w8 people where I could really see the two points. One of my favorite people in the world is a 9 with a very clear 8 wing. She was a high school principal -- possibly the best principal I've ever known.

Rendeverance Wrote:
Hmmm...

You are most likely a type 6.

Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 6w5.

Type 6 - 11.3
Type 5 - 8.7
Type 4 - 7
Type 1 - 6.7
Type 3 - 5.7
Type 7 - 5

Wing 6w5 - 15.7
Wing 5w6 - 14.4
Wing 6w7 - 13.8
Wing 5w4 - 12.2
Wing 4w5 - 11.4
Wing 7w6 - 10.7
Wing 4w3 - 9.9
Wing 3w4 - 9.2
Wing 1w9 - 8.6
Wing 1w2 - 7.4
Wing 3w2 - 6.4
Wing 7w8 - 6

Does this mean I am everything? lol...


Actually, that's a pretty clear and decisive 6w5 (if decisive is ever the right word to use with a Six...).

Almost everybody will pick up a point or two or more in every category -- all of us have a touch of everything. (Except that I've got no 9)

Marcia Wrote:
Well, I did the test again and still came out as a 9w1.

Here are the results:

Type 9 - 11
Type 5 - 7.7


That's a very clear 9. I think Aspies and/or very bright people usually get a bit of a bounce on the 5 type. On the "help!" thread, I see the Nine in action as you look at things from everyone else's point of view, then question your own point of view -- "Oh, dear, am I being a Six?"

energeia Wrote:
I wavered between 5w6 and 6w5 for a while.
Max--do you see me as more 5 or 6?  (or something else?)


I see the five so clearly, but I really hesitate to call 6 on people. I often don't see the Six until much later. But the funny thing for me is that when I meet somebody and just hit it off with them immediately, it soooo often turns out they are sixes.

Rendeverance Wrote:
Hmmm skeptical bout this - the second shorter test gives:

You are most likely a type 4 (the Individualist) with 3 wing

Self-preservation variant

Type 4 SP


For what it's worth, that site's write-up on a Four didn't feel right to me at all.

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