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Actually I am all of them but 9.  It looks like horoscope stuff. lots of generalizations.. I have traits of all but 9.


Five Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
Enneagram - any way to take that online? 

This site has free tests: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/
I found my type by reading the type descriptions in books instead of doing a test. Not every author gives an equally good description of the types. A part of the texts is nonsense.
To determine type, ask yourself 2 questions and read the type descriptions with the answers in your mind:
How do I behave to get what I want (retreat, demand agressively, co-operate etc.).
How do I behave when there is a problem (ignore the problem, confirm there is a problem but saying it is not your problem, solve it logically, respond emotionally etc.).

In another forum, people try to type other people by photo only. I'm convinced you need to observe behaviour too, a picture is not enough, there will be high percentage of error.
It is fun, when I meet someone new, and shake hands, I observe their way of smiling and guess their type, to confirm it in the following minutes by other data. You cannot "not behave" or "not communicate". But ultimately you yourself are the best to determine your type without error. Aspie traits will interfere with other personality traits and can give false conclusions. But I'm convinced that despite that, the enneagram is still very useful for everybody.

Actually I am all of them but 9.  It looks like horoscope stuff. lots of generalizations.. I have traits of all but 9.


Five Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
Enneagram - any way to take that online? 

This site has free tests: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/
I found my type by reading the type descriptions in books instead of doing a test. Not every author gives an equally good description of the types. A part of the texts is nonsense.
To determine type, ask yourself 2 questions and read the type descriptions with the answers in your mind:
How do I behave to get what I want (retreat, demand agressively, co-operate etc.).
How do I behave when there is a problem (ignore the problem, confirm there is a problem but saying it is not your problem, solve it logically, respond emotionally etc.).

In another forum, people try to type other people by photo only. I'm convinced you need to observe behaviour too, a picture is not enough, there will be high percentage of error.
It is fun, when I meet someone new, and shake hands, I observe their way of smiling and guess their type, to confirm it in the following minutes by other data. You cannot "not behave" or "not communicate". But ultimately you yourself are the best to determine your type without error. Aspie traits will interfere with other personality traits and can give false conclusions. But I'm convinced that despite that, the enneagram is still very useful for everybody.

My overall response to this is.. I know what I am , what are you? LOL  Honestly I know my personality type... Yes, I do not like lazy, I do not like dreamers who do not do!  I do not like doers who do not dream!  Its a balance.  I believe if you waste your life away you feign God , the universe and the world, so God MUST place you on earth for example of what NOT to be<G>

Max the Bear Wrote:
Here are a couple of free online tests that might help establish which of the Nine personality types you are: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php



This is how I scored...
You are most likely a type 1.

Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 1w2.
Type 1 - 12
Type 6 - 10
Type 3 - 8.3
Type 2 - 8
Type 5 - 8
Type 8 - 6.3
Type 4 - 6.3
Type 9 - 3.7

Wing 1w2 - 16
Wing 6w5 - 14
Wing 2w1 - 14
Wing 1w9 - 13.8
Wing 5w6 - 13
Wing 3w2 - 12.3
Wing 2w3 - 12.2
Wing 3w4 - 11.5
Wing 5w4 - 11.2
Wing 6w7 - 11
Wing 4w3 - 10.4
Wing 4w5 - 10.3
Wing 9w1 - 9.7
Wing 8w9 - 8.2
Wing 8w7 - 7.3
Wing 9w8 - 6.8

energeia Wrote:
5w6--We're the BEST type!
(Ha Ha Ha)
I also score high in type 1, and there are days I think I could easily be a 1, when my various forms of rigidity kick in.


Best type?  Says YOU! Wink

I like being a doer type one.. We get things DONE!   THinking is not good if you can't make the answers work.

Five Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:
I like being a doer type one.. We get things DONE!   THinking is not good if you can't make the answers work.

Everybody has all types in themselves. It will be most healthy to become balanced, to use thinking, feeling and doing, all three of him. I have to remind myself of that, I cannot "think" my house clean Wink. See a type as a sort of innate preference.

Actually you, like everybody, are a unique human being who cannot be put into a category. But I'm convinced the enneagram is very useful as a model. Part of the texts in books and internet is nonsense and looks like horoscope stuff. I think the essential part will survive and will be proven to be scientific.

Yetti, I apologise if this post is too personal. From your first posts I thought "that's an 8 (leader)". Sorry, I automatically type people, not only at this forum, but I can imagine people not liking that. I still think now you're an 8.

From your photo, especially the young one, you radiate a certain strength (I realize I'm becoming less scientific now). Strong = 8.

An 8 sees the world from the point of view of doing (the other 2 possibilities are: thinking and feeling).

For an 8, feeling will be repressed. Take that positively. Your response to bullies is not: starting to cry. 8s can be rather hard. Except when they feel really safe with a loved one, then they drop their hard shell.
The 2 things left concerning internal processing are: doing and thinking. For an 8 that is thinking supports doing (not the other way around, not doing supports thinking).

So first, seeing the world from doing, and secondly, inside it is doing supported by thinking, that is all about doing! So 8s feel invincible. A can do attitude. Allrounders. They tend to overestimate their capabilities. And indeed you seem to be able to do anything, and want to learn what you cannot do yet. 8s like to help the underdog. I can write much more but leave it at this.

My guess is you would recognise much of yourself in Gurdjieff. Read "Meetings with remarkable men" by Gurdjieff. It's difficult to read a page without laughing.


Balance IS the KEY . I totallly agree!

Yetti Wrote:

Five Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:
I like being a doer type one.. We get things DONE!   THinking is not good if you can't make the answers work.

Everybody has all types in themselves. It will be most healthy to become balanced, to use thinking, feeling and doing, all three of him. I have to remind myself of that, I cannot "think" my house clean Wink. See a type as a sort of innate preference.

Actually you, like everybody, are a unique human being who cannot be put into a category. But I'm convinced the enneagram is very useful as a model. Part of the texts in books and internet is nonsense and looks like horoscope stuff. I think the essential part will survive and will be proven to be scientific.

Yetti, I apologise if this post is too personal. From your first posts I thought "that's an 8 (leader)". Sorry, I automatically type people, not only at this forum, but I can imagine people not liking that. I still think now you're an 8.

From your photo, especially the young one, you radiate a certain strength (I realize I'm becoming less scientific now). Strong = 8.

An 8 sees the world from the point of view of doing (the other 2 possibilities are: thinking and feeling).

For an 8, feeling will be repressed. Take that positively. Your response to bullies is not: starting to cry. 8s can be rather hard. Except when they feel really safe with a loved one, then they drop their hard shell.
The 2 things left concerning internal processing are: doing and thinking. For an 8 that is thinking supports doing (not the other way around, not doing supports thinking).

So first, seeing the world from doing, and secondly, inside it is doing supported by thinking, that is all about doing! So 8s feel invincible. A can do attitude. Allrounders. They tend to overestimate their capabilities. And indeed you seem to be able to do anything, and want to learn what you cannot do yet. 8s like to help the underdog. I can write much more but leave it at this.

My guess is you would recognise much of yourself in Gurdjieff. Read "Meetings with remarkable men" by Gurdjieff. It's difficult to read a page without laughing.


Balance IS the KEY . I totallly agree!


I think you hit my personality on the head... you are right.. that is me!  I will read it.. thanks for the recommend.  Do write more... I think you have come closer than anyone to my personality. I am amazed.. no I am not upset in the slightest.. Ialso try to learn my shortcomings... but isn't that typical of someone like me.. I can't have my weak links cause  problems... its like a hole in the boat.. Do continue.. I am enjoy it.. <ego> <G>

Yetti Wrote:

Five Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:
I like being a doer type one.. We get things DONE!   THinking is not good if you can't make the answers work.

Everybody has all types in themselves. It will be most healthy to become balanced, to use thinking, feeling and doing, all three of him. I have to remind myself of that, I cannot "think" my house clean Wink. See a type as a sort of innate preference.

Actually you, like everybody, are a unique human being who cannot be put into a category. But I'm convinced the enneagram is very useful as a model. Part of the texts in books and internet is nonsense and looks like horoscope stuff. I think the essential part will survive and will be proven to be scientific.

Yetti, I apologise if this post is too personal. From your first posts I thought "that's an 8 (leader)". Sorry, I automatically type people, not only at this forum, but I can imagine people not liking that. I still think now you're an 8.

From your photo, especially the young one, you radiate a certain strength (I realize I'm becoming less scientific now). Strong = 8.

An 8 sees the world from the point of view of doing (the other 2 possibilities are: thinking and feeling).

For an 8, feeling will be repressed. Take that positively. Your response to bullies is not: starting to cry. 8s can be rather hard. Except when they feel really safe with a loved one, then they drop their hard shell.
The 2 things left concerning internal processing are: doing and thinking. For an 8 that is thinking supports doing (not the other way around, not doing supports thinking).

So first, seeing the world from doing, and secondly, inside it is doing supported by thinking, that is all about doing! So 8s feel invincible. A can do attitude. Allrounders. They tend to overestimate their capabilities. And indeed you seem to be able to do anything, and want to learn what you cannot do yet. 8s like to help the underdog. I can write much more but leave it at this.

My guess is you would recognise much of yourself in Gurdjieff. Read "Meetings with remarkable men" by Gurdjieff. It's difficult to read a page without laughing.


Balance IS the KEY . I totallly agree!


I think you hit my personality on the head... you are right.. that is me!  I will read it.. thanks for the recommend.  Do write more... I think you have come closer than anyone to my personality. I am amazed.. no I am not upset in the slightest.. Ialso try to learn my shortcomings... but isn't that typical of someone like me.. I can't have my weak links cause  problems... its like a hole in the boat.. Do continue.. I am enjoying it.. <ego> <G>

Max the Bear Wrote:
...although 1's can be --

judgmental
inflexible
dogmatic
obsessive-compulsive
critical of others
overly serious
controlling
anxious
and
jealous

...but nobody's perfect



See that doesn't resonate with me,because I am not totally like that.. I am more balanced. I do think I am what 5 states.. the test I had some questions I was not sure of.. so it was really hit or miss and felt my answers did  not match the questions...
I am more known for being nice according to my husband.. people trust me and come ot me for help ,but by the same token if they try my patience or attack, I am quite capable of biting their heads off like a preying manthis.  I can usually spot an agenda...with folks.. if they are sincere and really need help , I am their best friend ,but if there is overwhelming evidence of some Ne'er do well motive.. My sword is there.. I do not put up with it.....

I have more friends than enemies.. but my enemies keep their distance <G>

energeia Wrote:
Granting that I don't think I'm good at picking out 8s (I don't seem to know many), I definitely got 1 vibes from Yetti while reading her posts and then, when I saw her current picture, my view was reinforced. 1w2 would be my guess. But I could be wrong.  I'll bet you her husband is a 9 or a 5. (If you're reading this, Yetti, and are curious, I'd be interested in hearing about your husband's type).

From the Riso-Hudson web site, http://www.enneagraminstitute.com

Misidentifying Ones and Eights

Both Ones and Eights are in the Instinctive Triad, both have strong wills, both are action-oriented, and both have strong notions about how to do things. However, Ones try to convince others to do the right thing (as they see it) from the standpoint of a moral imperative–because it is the right thing to do. They try to logically convince the other of the soundness of their views, but become irritated and less logical when others resists their reasoning. Eights, on the other hand, rely on their own self-confidence, and attempt to sway others by their gutsy convictions and sheer personal charisma. ("I don't know if it's the right way, but it's my way.") Ones try to convert those who resist them: Eights try to power through them.

The greatest misunderstanding between these two types involves their concern with justice, although the nature of their sense of justice can be quite different. Ones hold justice as an extremely important value–many judges, attorneys, advocates, and criminal prosecutors actually are Ones. Ones think a great deal about issues of providing suitable standards for human beings and about the specifics of how to administer a fair and equitable system. Ones at all Levels of Development refer to justice and think that they seek justice (no matter how skewed their interpretation of it may become). In any case, justice is a matter of principles–part of their idealism. They strive after justice and want to rectify injustices wherever they find them because, among other reasons, to do otherwise would be to fail to live up to their high moral standards and make them feel guilty.

In Eights, justice is more of a visceral response, a reaction to witnessing injustices occurring. Eights, generally speaking, do not walk around thinking about these matters, but if they saw a helpless person being harmed or bullied by others, without thinking about it, Eights would rush in to "level the playing field." For Eights, justice has little to do with abstract principles. Eights see themselves as protectors of others, and when they are healthy, they actually are. Eights are more likely to seek justice for "their people"–their family, friends, co-workers, ethnic group, and so forth. It is usually expressed in a concern that those in their care (or under their power and authority) be treated fairly. The cowboy marshal protecting the town against criminals and the union chief negotiating a just wage for the rank and file are examples of this more restricted concern for justice. With Eights, the sense of justice usually involves addressing an imbalance of power. This is quite different from the One who seeks to make sure that people are appropriately rewarded for good actions and punished for bad ones.

Of course, in their unhealthy manifestations, both types can be extremely unjust. Ones will still believe that they are being fair–the punishments they are meting out are for the good of the person being punished, or at the very least, for the good of society. Ones feel they need to rationalize their punitive activities. Eights do not. For unhealthy Eights, administering justice is simply meting out vengeance. ("You hurt me or my people, and I'll destroy you." "He ripped me off. Now he has to pay.") Needless to say, others may question the "justice" in either of these types' unhealthy behavior.

The confusion between Eights and Ones probably also stems from the fact that some Ones may misidentify themselves as Eights since they would like to have the authority and influence of Eights. They may also recognize that they have aggressive impulses and misidentify themselves as an "aggressive type," although they are really compliant to their ideals; the Eight is the true aggressive type par excellence. On the other hand, Eights almost never misidentify themselves as Ones, viewing Ones as lily-livered and bloodless–moral only because they are too weak to be strong. Although Eights themselves are unlikely to think they are Ones, other people sometimes misidentify Eights as Ones because they see them as reformers. But clearly, many natural leaders, including Eights, lead reforms when they are needed. Contrasting Ones such as Pope John Paul II, Ralph Nader, and Hilary Clinton with Eights such as Lee Iococca, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Barbara Walters gives a vivid sense of their differences.


I will try to get him to take it... He is recovering from hand surgery.. I may have to type his replies... But I think you are on target.. we compliment each other and it works..  We do butt heads on certain issues and he is very very passive agressive....  I am a MAC person and he is PC...we do not discuss this in our home without major shouting matches <G> Yes that is the only topic we do that.. so we have a policy we don't discuss. I have both pc and MAC in our homes... <G>  Our daughter tells people.. do not bring up the MAC/PC debate around us LOL..

I am definitely an 8 then... as I stated I have more friends than enemies.. and I RARELY let people down...  IF I do , I punish myself unmercifully. My husband testifies to this...  He loves my loyalty and that I do everything to make our lives wonderful.. he does tooo... our daughter said our relationship has always inspired her.... It took her a while to see her fathers passive agressive trait but she eventually saw it when I let her handle any challenges iwth him... so she sees the balance... and its seems to work...My husband and I both love law and both went to law school.  He is a practicing attorney very successful.. he is a scientist and very good and brilliant.. I am good at all those too. he is not good at visual art... or athletics..  But we ar both excellent with animals...

I am definitely an 8. I don't identify with the harshness of ones.. my husband is here and agrees.  I have too many friends and people wanting to be my friend... That is why I did not go into theatre.. people wanting to meet me after performances... touching... I am great on stage but can't handle crowds or people wanting to meet me and relate as a person.. its overwhelming... I love doing a good job.. I don't like crowds of admirerers... who want to get close.

Here is my husband's results

You are most likely a type 2.

Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 2w1.

No personality test is completely accurate. Although several measures were taken to make this test as accurate as possible, there's always a chance that you are not typed correctly by it. Therefore, when deciding which Enneagram type and wing you are, you might also want to consider the types with the highest test scores on the lists below.

(Note that your lowest scores may be omitted.)

Type 2 - 12
Type 1 - 11
Type 9 - 10
Type 3 - 9.3

Wing 2w1 - 17.5
Wing 1w2 - 17
Wing 2w3 - 16.6
Wing 1w9 - 16
Wing 9w1 - 15.5
Wing 3w2 - 15.3
Wing 9w8 - 11.2
Wing 3w4 - 10.8

My husband thinks I am a 2 as well.. He feels I went too fast through the test...
But after reading the 8 he said that is more me than 2......  He is right here...

Yetti Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:

Five Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:
I like being a doer type one.. We get things DONE!   THinking is not good if you can't make the answers work.

Everybody has all types in themselves. It will be most healthy to become balanced, to use thinking, feeling and doing, all three of him. I have to remind myself of that, I cannot "think" my house clean Wink. See a type as a sort of innate preference.

Actually you, like everybody, are a unique human being who cannot be put into a category. But I'm convinced the enneagram is very useful as a model. Part of the texts in books and internet is nonsense and looks like horoscope stuff. I think the essential part will survive and will be proven to be scientific.

Yetti, I apologise if this post is too personal. From your first posts I thought "that's an 8 (leader)". Sorry, I automatically type people, not only at this forum, but I can imagine people not liking that. I still think now you're an 8.

From your photo, especially the young one, you radiate a certain strength (I realize I'm becoming less scientific now). Strong = 8.

An 8 sees the world from the point of view of doing (the other 2 possibilities are: thinking and feeling).

For an 8, feeling will be repressed. Take that positively. Your response to bullies is not: starting to cry. 8s can be rather hard. Except when they feel really safe with a loved one, then they drop their hard shell.
The 2 things left concerning internal processing are: doing and thinking. For an 8 that is thinking supports doing (not the other way around, not doing supports thinking).

So first, seeing the world from doing, and secondly, inside it is doing supported by thinking, that is all about doing! So 8s feel invincible. A can do attitude. Allrounders. They tend to overestimate their capabilities. And indeed you seem to be able to do anything, and want to learn what you cannot do yet. 8s like to help the underdog. I can write much more but leave it at this.

My guess is you would recognise much of yourself in Gurdjieff. Read "Meetings with remarkable men" by Gurdjieff. It's difficult to read a page without laughing.


Balance IS the KEY . I totallly agree!


I think you hit my personality on the head... you are right.. that is me!  I will read it.. thanks for the recommend.  Do write more... I think you have come closer than anyone to my personality. I am amazed.. no I am not upset in the slightest.. Ialso try to learn my shortcomings... but isn't that typical of someone like me.. I can't have my weak links cause  problems... its like a hole in the boat.. Do continue.. I am enjoying it.. <ego> <G>


My husband agrees with you analysis 5.

My husband says he does not believe in this stuff...  He said he is very "Unimpressed with the test or any value it may have."
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