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LoftyD Wrote:
I am most likely a type 6.

Taking wings into account, I seem to be a 6w5.

Thats what I get but I say it should be: 5w6.

5s and 6s are both thinkers but in a different way. The thinking of 6 works well for the outside world but less for their insides. 6s in a way don't trust what they think. 6s ask the opinions of others. 6s are more conformists. 5s are more independent, more non-conformist. 5s can take a standpoint and defend that even if the whole world has another opinion. 6s are more focused on co-operation. 5s are more loners. Hope that helps to determine whether your type is 5 or 6.
The wing behaviour you only show in certain circumstances. My 6 wing starts working when other people are present. That's why I can co-operate and am not unemployed. But at same time my 6 wing causes me to be not at ease at work.

Shnoing Wrote:
… most likely a type 1.

A 1 sees something (objects, people, circumstances, documents) as not perfect and focuses on improvement. To exaggerate: if you give a text to a 1 he immediately sees where the errors are. For a 1 imperfect can be the same as wrong. If the improvement focuses on people a 1 can be a great teacher. 1s are full of "shoulds", focus on ideals, put high demands on themselves. A 1 would be a good judge. A 5 cares much less about improvement, focuses more on innovation. A 1 is more a doer than a 5. A 5 is a thinker.
A 9 wing can put you more at ease with the current situation, relaxed, less focus on doing.

Ellen Wrote:
Five: Do you think these psychics channel Rajneesh or are they trained by him?

I see religious masters is one of your main interests. Mine too.

With reference to our contact by private message, I will start a separate thread about Osho to avoid mixing with the subject of the enneagram in this thread. Maybe others are interested in him too. I will start the thread tomorrow (if I can access this site) and respond to your questions.

The 8:
I'm O.K. if I'm in charge.
You are O.K. if you let me be in charge.

So my strategy (at work) with 8s would be: let them lead, I follow.

energeia Wrote:
(I don't think you're a 2, Yetti.  But if you're an 8, then you have a connection to 2--as you feel safe and fulfilled, you'd be inclined to be generous towards the needs of others.)

Exactly. And under stress 8s behave more like 5s, become more silent and introvert, start thinking instead of doing.

Yetti Wrote:
Wink.. but then again.. I am good with people who are dictators.. I can play their game.. I don't battle for who is king of the mountain unless my odds are good.. I weigh the individual situation.. I am a good team player..but I do take my place if I can to be the leader, more than my husband.

There are 3 variables:

1. Type. For you 8 without a wing.

2. Instinctual variant: for you relational (or sexual). Not self preservation, not social. It's obvious, your posts contain references to sex.

3. Level of health. You being very healthy and very intelligent explains the quote above.

For me as a 5, it is good to think less and do more, especially physically. So I walk a lot, and indeed that makes me feel good. By doing more, following my body instincts and needs more, the result is I think less and feel more. Am more balanced.

For 8s, it will be good to do less and feel more for others, be compassionate and helpful, sensitive, loving. More like 2s (although 2s are not in balance, 2s don't think enough, 2s repress thinking). You already do that, so you are rather balanced already, healthy. A balance of doing, thinking and feeling. A less healthy 8 will over-do and under-feel.

energeia Wrote:
(Note: I test higher in 8 and 1 than I do in 5...and I think this is because of being less inhibited than are more typical 5s.  Very "what you see is what you get")  

Energeia, maybe your high score in 8 might be related to a relatively stressfree childhood?

I wonder... does anybody have thoughts/ideas about how I could make my enneagram knowledge and skills into my work, earn money with it? I have thought many times about, with the result that it remains a hobby only.

energeia Wrote:
Yetti, I kind of doubt that your husband's a 2--I bet he's a 9.  If he thinks that some of every type applies to him, he's more likely to be a 9.  Just my guess.

All the data we have, although limited, suggests 9 only. Female 8s usually don't like male 2s, but like male 5s, 6s and 9s, that's another clue. So likely 9, not 2.

energeia Wrote:
Five--I'm guessing soc/sp/sx for Yetti.  She found her Mr Right and is happy with him, which Sx last folks are certainly capable of doing.  I'm guessing her major energy thrust is mainly towards the world, hence the strong type 1 score, rather than needing the juice provided by intense one-on-one interactions.  

I thought sx first because Yetti mentioned sex related subjects in her posts. In one of the links there are 3 descriptions of 8s (sp, sx and soc), Yetti can check. Why do you think otherwise?

Maybe the strong 1 score is evidence that the tests don't give reliable scores for Aspies, too high scores on 5 and 1.

Yetti Wrote:
What I also found is my husband and I love being together and we love time alone to be ourselves.. he is more likely to want me around always...  We also like our independance.. and we are not possessive.

So maybe the relational 9, see
http://www.9types.com/descr/baron2.html

I counted in the MBTI thread: 2 INFP, 2 INTP/INTJ, 11 INTJ, 4 ISTJ, 1 INTP, 1 INFJ, 1 INTJ/ISTJ, 1 ENFP. So that is: 14 INT, 4 IST, 4 other.

According to the link I gave about the relation between MBTI and Enneagram the possibilities are: enneagram type 1 can be IST, type 5 is either INT or IST, type 6 can be IST.

I don't know what to conclude from this. Where is Aspiesness in the whole MBTI / Enneagram field?

Not all Aspies are 5s; most Aspies are 5s.
Not all Aspies are INTs; most Aspies are INTs.
All INTs are 5s. Not all 5s are INTs.
Some Aspies are ISTs.
5 is the only enneatype which can be either INT or IST.

energeia Wrote:
In the general population, INTs could easily be 1s (INTJ), 3s, 5s, 6s, or 9s...2 and 4 being least likely, probably. 

Not according to the correlation table in the link I gave.

energeia Wrote:
If it weren't for some of the odd collection of common physical aspie traits I have (e.g. motor uncoordination, strabismus, sensory sensitivity) I'd just think I was one of those odd duck 5s.

I admit I had to look up strabismus; now I know what it is. I didn't see that on the photo on this forum and not on the photo on the EIDB (sorry Smile).
Energeia, do you know how I can get in the EIDB? I can login with my username from years ago (posted very few posts and left) but I don't want to use that username anymore because it contains my real first name. I have logged in with another username and another Email address but something went wrong on the site and the only option I see is to take a third Email address. Do you know an alternative to login in EIDB? Thanks for your help. Although this would not reduce my time online, I want to go back more to reading books also...

O.K., my information was based on only 1 website about enneagram & MBTI, apparently not all websites agree with eachother. I don't know a lot about MBTI. Although apparently there is no clear correlation between enneagram and MBTI, both typing systems may be able to give an explanation for some personality traits.

For example, I suppose my very high score for S in ISTJ can explain my reading texts literally, an Aspie trait. I see exactly what is written including all typos, not what could be there. I realise that this explanation is in contradiction with Aspies who have a low score on S (high score on N) and also take texts literally. Nevertheless, a high score on S still makes sense to me as an explanation for reading literally. In fact, I also think a very high score on S explains a capacity for concentration, a focus on the herenow. To exaggerate, sometimes it's difficult to imagine that there is a past, a future, other places than "here". I don't know whether Aspies have difficulty to imagine to be in another place on another time (as I said, exaggerating a bit). To me, MBTI explains these characteristics, while the enneagram does not. So both systems may be useful side by side.

Luai_lashire Wrote:
I got a 4.  The page describing 4 mentioned 4w5, though, and that sounded like me.  But, it also said 4s miss-identify as 5s, so I don't know.  Tongue

Here are some descriptions of types (there are many more available):
http://www.hurleydonson.com/nine_types.htm
http://www.9types.com/descr/baron2.html

Besides type (1 to 9 and their wings) there is also:
Level of health (healthy, average, unhealthy). I guess most people, not all, fall in the middle group ("average").
And there are the instincts (self-preservation, sexual, social).

I don't understand the statement you got about 4s miss-identify as 5s. 4s are in the feeling triad, 5s are thinkers. That's a big difference.

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