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I seemed to have confused the test website:

You are most likely a type 5.

Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 1w9.

It is not clear from these test results which Enneagram type and wing you are.

To determine your true type, you might want to start by considering the types with the highest scores on the lists below. Also, there are many fine books and other websites that contain detailed descriptions of the types. Consulting these might give you the information you need to determine your true type. As knowing your Enneagram type involves self-knowledge, you might want to observe and analyze your behavior and motivations. You might also benefit from taking the test again later.

Type 5 - 8.3
Type 1 - 7.7
Type 9 - 7
Type 4 - 5
Type 2 - 1.3

Wing 1w9 - 11.2
Wing 5w4 - 10.8
Wing 9w1 - 10.8
Wing 5w6 - 9.2
Wing 4w5 - 9.2
Wing 1w2 - 8.3
Wing 9w8 - 8.2
Wing 4w3 - 5.8
Wing 2w1 - 5.2
Wing 2w3 - 2.1


I thought most of the questions were really weird ("self-revelations" - WTF?), and I ended up saying "No" on most of them.
Enneagram test with instinctual variant:

type...score...type behavior motivation
5.......50.......I must be knowledgable and independent to be happy.
9.......47.......I must be peaceful and easy to get along with to be happy.
1.......43.......I must be perfect and good to be happy.
6.......36.......I must be secure and safe to be happy.
8.......29.......I must be strong and in control to be happy.
4.......27.......I must avoid painful feelings to be happy.
7.......27.......I must be high and entertained to be happy.
3.......25.......I must be impressive and attractive to be happy.
2.......24.......I must be helpful and caring to be happy.

Perfectionism........||||||||||||||||......62%
Helpfulness...........||||||||||..............34%
Image Focus.........||||||||||..............36%
Hypersensitivity.....||||||||||..............39%
Detachment..........||||||||||||||||||...72%
Anxiety................||||||||||||||.........52%
Adventurousness...||||||||||..............39%
Aggressiveness......||||||||||||...........41%
Calmness..............||||||||||||||||......68%

Meh... Still pretty vague. I think I like the other personality tests better.

energeia Wrote:
Natalie--do you know what your mbti type is?


INTJ I believe (that's the right test, right?).

… most likely a type 1.

Taking wings into account, a 1w9.

Type 1 - 9.7
Type 5 - 9
Type 9 - 6.7
Type 8 - 6
Type 2 - 3

Now I've gotta read what that might mean …

Five Wrote:

Shnoing Wrote:
… most likely a type 1.

A 1 sees something (objects, people, circumstances, documents) as not perfect and focuses on improvement. To exaggerate: if you give a text to a 1 he immediately sees where the errors are. For a 1 imperfect can be the same as wrong. ...


As a part of my job, I'm looking for spelling errors (not in English, though). So that would match - great!

anbuend Wrote:
By which I mean, it's far more interesting to me to look at the world in order to understand it, rather than to look at a bunch of little pretty artistically-designed ideas that float in the air above the world, and get so wrapped up in those that I actually think they represent the world.  The Enneagram and similar things strike me as the latter sort of thing.  They are symbolic systems for understanding the world through, and that's my least effective method for understanding the world.  Symbols seem useful for communication, but for understanding what's in front of you they seem to leave a lot to be desired.  I'd rather just look at what's in front of me.  I see patterns but they sure don't conform to any 9-type model no matter how complex it's made.


I agree completely, I'm a very poor symbolic thinker.  I like to look at the world by using any number of angles, which don't necessarily represent what "I truly think."  As someone with AS I have a murky self-concept, so I like to compare and contrast everything to everything else, rather than "keeping things in place" with the NT abstractions, and so on.  Things/life/existence is slippery for me, I don't know what to make of it, and I prefer to stay on the outside and question things rather than claim to make sense of it all.

Five Wrote:
In my view, the enneagram is a very useful model of the mind. The mind is a very complex biological mechanism. But people are more than their minds (I like the word being but you can call it soul). People have a subjective factor, people are more than complex moving objects. The enneagram describes only the mechanical, unconscious part of us. The more healthy a person, the more conscious/aware, the more flexible in their behavioural patterns, the harder to determine their type (because healthy people are more rooted in their subjective factor, they use their mind, their bio-computer, instead of being used by it). My interest in the subjective factor made me interested in religions, to compliment my interest in the enneagram. 


I'm not very flexible in my behavioural patterns.  Does that mean unhealthy?  To me it means a very common tendency of AS.. preference for sameness and willful control over things.  A compulsive need for order is the way I see my lack of flexibility, rather than being unhealthy.

Here's what I got on the Classic Enneagram Test, from Eclectic Energies:


You are most likely a type 5 or 6.

Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 5w4 or 5w6 or 6w5.

It is not clear from these test results which Enneagram type and wing you are.

To determine your true type, you might want to start by considering the types with the highest scores on the lists below. Also, there are many fine books and other websites that contain detailed descriptions of the types. Consulting these might give you the information you need to determine your true type. As knowing your Enneagram type involves self-knowledge, you might want to observe and analyze your behavior and motivations. You might also benefit from taking the test again later.
(Note that your lowest scores may be omitted.)

Type 5 - 10.7
Type 6 - 10.7
Type 4 - 10.3
Type 9 - 8
Type 7 - 6.7

Wing 5w6 - 16
Wing 6w5 - 16
Wing 5w4 - 15.8
Wing 4w5 - 15.7
Wing 6w7 - 14
Wing 4w3 - 12.7
Wing 7w6 - 12.1
Wing 9w1 - 9.3
Wing 9w8 - 8.2
Wing 7w8 - 6.9
Enneagram Test with Instinctual Variant results

You are most likely a type 4 (the Individualist) with 5 wing

Social variant

Type 4 SO
Type 5 SP
Type 6 SP
Type 1 SP
Type 9 SP
Type 8 SP
Type 7 SO
Type 3 SX
Type 2 SP

The list shows how likely it is that you are each enneagram type.

Most people will be the type at the top of the list, however, your actual personality type might be somewhat lower in it (usually it's in the top 3). Your instinctual variant is most likely the one indicated next to your actual type.

Five Wrote:

energeia Wrote:
For example, I see within myself that "give in order to get" motivation characteristic of type 2--it's a drive to be connected.  Even though it runs counter to my 5 drive towards self-sufficiency, it is still operative.  And I've had to own that love-seeking part of myself.

I was surprised to find out that when I'm at ease and feeling like an 8, I start responding like a 2, fully unconsciously. For example spontaneously telling strangers who seem to be lost which direction to take.


Are you saying you also support the trifix idea?

Five Wrote:
According to the link I gave about the relation between MBTI and Enneagram the possibilities are: enneagram type 1 can be IST, type 5 is either INT or IST, type 6 can be IST.


I'm type 6, but very far from level-headed or logical (which I assume is a primary function of IST, from what you've said, Five.)

This keeps getting more confusing every day, in this thread.

Five Wrote:
I don't understand the statement you got about 4s miss-identify as 5s. 4s are in the feeling triad, 5s are thinkers.


And 6s are in between Cool

I'm a five, and I couldn't clearly discern whether I had a four or a six wing, if any at all.

Enneagram Type 5:
Observer, Investigator, Thinker, Sage or Voyeur

Overview
You want to be intelligent, informed, knowledgeable and perceptive. More importantly, you want to be self-sufficient and not have the entanglements of obligation. You see yourself as intellectual, dispassionate and investigative. You would like others to see you as rational, logical and scholarly. Your idealized image is that you are thoughtful and wise.

Private and solitary by nature, you like to be invisible until you are ready to reveal yourself. You tend to stay on the sidelines preferring to meet the world with your mind. You prefer to play the role of detached observer or investigator. In general, you see the world as intrusive, overwhelming and chaotic—often demanding too much and giving too little in return. As a result, to manage the fear of not knowing, you conserve your energy and focus your attention on acquiring the information necessary to make sense out of the chaos.

Studious and scholarly, you develop expertise in any area that is of interest to you, often in more than one field. You believe that knowledge is power and feel it is imperative that you be intellectually astute as a means of survival. Often scientific, you have unparalleled powers of mental perception due in part to your ability to remain detached and unaffected by your emotions. You have an inquisitive and observant nature with an insatiable appetite for information. You like to think things through before offering your perceptive insights regarding systems, people or how the world works.

Avoiding the glaring light of scrutiny, you seek the safety of camouflage. When you feel that you lack intellect, you become withdrawn, isolated and reclusive. You see yourself as intense, unexpected, original and different from others. You are private and introspective, although others may think of you as anti-social, secretive, remote and eccentric. You are not afraid to point out the 'emperor who has no clothes' and your wonderful sense of humor is based on postulating the absurd. Rather than the wave crashing on the shore, you have the strength of the undertow and know exactly when to give or withhold your involvement and information to have the greatest impact.

Need
Fearing intrusion, you need to keep yourself hidden and camouflaged. However intellectual you may be, you often feel vulnerable and exposed like an animal without fur. You need time alone to recharge and for others to not place high demands on your time or energy. It is essential for your well being that your mind is clear, your life uncluttered, and that you have the autonomy to control your time.

Avoid
You avoid standing out and/or being misinterpreted. You also avoid pretentious or ostentatious displays. You may find small talk or a brainstorming session at work to be an insufferable waste of time. You fear annihilation, contamination, and being fully embodied – as you feel more comfortable being with your thoughts than in your body. Because you prefer to live a life that isn't weighed down by attachments – either material or relational – you also avoid surplus of any kind. The one exception might be a library of resources.

Virtue
Your greatest strengths are your clear objectivity and your penetrating insight that is unfettered by emotions. You have an innate ability to gather information and create systems to assess and categorize data in a clear and concise manner. Mentally astute, you are able to observe, study and track even the smallest details, often developing expertise in many areas. Underneath your shyness and reserve, you are a kindhearted and giving person. You are also very loyal to and supportive of those you trust.

Vice
Your vice is avarice. This can manifest as a greedy hording of yourself, your time, your energy and/or your things. Be careful of your tendency to observe the world through a peephole. It can keep you isolated and out of touch with human concerns. Be aware of your tendency to withdraw into your ivory tower of ideas. Others may start to see you as arrogant and unfeeling. Being dispassionate and 'cool as a cucumber' is good in an emergency but hard on relationships.

Attention
Your attention goes to observing the world, hiding or withholding to protect yourself and gathering information for the purpose of knowing and understanding. Hesitant and reluctant to engage, you search for factual data, seeking reason, logic and objectivity.

Spiritual Path
Your spiritual path is to reclaim a sense of non-attachment and experience omniscience—true knowing from a higher source. Spiritual growth will come when you offer freely of yourself to others without fear of incurring obligation and realize that mere information can never be a substitute for true direct knowing.

Mantra
Your map of the world is a mental construct, not the actual territory. For deeper knowing, remember to include your feelings as they yield important information in any equation. As a rule, you believe that there is always more that can be learned, known and understood. It is helpful to recognize when you know enough to make a decision.

Wing
If you are the Enneagram Type 5 with the 4 Wing, you desire to appear imaginative. You see yourself as aloof, understated, penetrating, intuitive, inquisitive and quiet.

If you are the Enneagram Type 5 with the 6 Wing, you desire to appear intellectual. You see yourself as changeable, receptive, careful, whimsical and trustworthy.

Famous 5s
St. Thomas Aquinas, Issac Asimov, Samuel Beckett, The Buddha, Tim Burton, David Byrne, Richard Chamberlain, Agatha Christie, Montgomery Clift, Michael Crichton, Daniel Day-Lewis, René Descartes, Joan Didion, Joe DiMaggio, Amelia Earhart, Albert Einstein, T.S. Eliot, England, Ralph Fiennes, Bobby Fischer, Peter Gabriel, Greta Garbo, Bill Gates, J. Paul Getty, Jane Goodall, H.R. Haldeman, Hildegarde of Bingen, Alfred Hitchcock, Anthony Hopkins, Howard Hughes, Ted Kaczynski, Franz Kafka, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, Dean Koontz, Stanley Kubrick, Gary Larson, Annie Leibowitz, George Lucas, David Lynch, Norman MacLean, Robert MacNeil, Leonard Maltin, Timothy McVeigh, Natalie Merchant, Sam Neill, Georgia O'Keefe, J. Robert Oppenheimer, Al Pacino, Michelle Pfeiffer, John D. Rockefeller, Jr., Oliver Sacks, Jean-Paul Sartre, Scrooge, Sister Wendy, George Stephanopoulos, Madeleine Stowe, Jules Verne, Max Von Sydow, Ken Wilber.
On that link from Energeia I got the following scores:

Type 9 - 9.7
Type 5 - 9
Type 1 - 8.3
Type 3 - 5.3
Type 8 - 5.3
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