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Well honestly while reading this, I do have to say I don't get LFA or HFA for that matter. But Honestly Seven, your not making yourself look good by villianizing us Aspies. Acting like we "*** around with you" This sort of finger pointing makes me angry and frustrated. I understand that you want to gain information. But I feel like we're the big bad guys. And I don't like that

I remember doug from high school and he was LFA, great guy I got along with him well. Though I don't always get LFA or even other Aspies, infact I have rule that states I will never get intimate with one (Aspies). >> If you wish to break boundries, and open minds. Then follow your own advice. Not all of use thinks "We get Austics" Cause I don't
Because the last person idea was text-book aspie, and after a while I hated the relationship. I had more date experiance than him(infact he had none) and I felt that I was dating a thirteen year old. I don't think it's a good rule and sure it depends on the person. But I'm speaking for myself. I just won't date other aspies. Not the profound ones at least.

Patrick is not NT but he isn't an Aspie, he's my current and I believe my only love, so that rule is moot anyway since I won't be dating anytime soon

Noetic Wrote:

BardWolf Wrote:
Because the last person idea was text-book aspie, and after a while I hated the relationship.


Aspies are people too, with their own personalities. You can't take one bad apple and assume everyone else with AS is the same!


What I'm not allow to be choosy with dating parters? He's good guy and very sweet. I'm not saying that I hated him. He was just not good boyfriend material and I'm very picky, and I also realized that I'm extremely monoanagmous to someone else (eventhough we we'ren't dating at the time), and that maybe the main reason I broke up with him not not because he was an Aspie. I might have used that to rationalize my break up instead of saying I was still in love with Patrick.

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I don't think it's a good rule and sure it depends on the person. But I'm speaking for myself. I just won't date other aspies. Not the profound ones at least.


That just a personal preferance. I'm very attached to Patrick, so honestly at this point of the game should it matter? Maybe in the long run it won't I would love to have lotst of aspie friends. But my last relationships with Aspies endded in sour notes. And from that experiance, aren't I allowed to have that kind of preferance?

Sorry if I'm sounding immature...but you know, like Erik(the aspie guy) I'm human too

seven Wrote:
and what makes you think i am not autistic? i am very steriotypical, and no one who knows me in person has ever said that, but people who have only spoken with me via text Have said that before obviously.


I must first say that I do not find you to be a "fake autistic,"  because I believe that you are very sincere and very passionate in your beliefs. I think 99% of the people that self diagnose are probably correct.  However, you just don't fit the profile in my mind.

I must again state that I do not know you.  If I meet you in person I may have a different opinion.  My opinions are just that, my opinions.  I realize that they could be incorrect.

One reason you don't come across as autistic to me is your logic seems circular rather than linear.  You also seemed to be perplexed by people with black and white perspectives.  I don't think you would agree, but you are very inconsistent.  Your opinions are very flexible are seem to be determined by your mood.

In one of your posts on another thead you stated that doctors don't know what they are talking about (this can be true of course) because what they claim autism is, doesn't fit you.  It seems like you are defining autism based on your personality and traits rather than seeing autism as something that as been defined and checking to see if you fit the criteria.

In another thread you said that your doctor gave you less than 1% chance of being autistic.  (I did read the thread we are on first and had already formed my opinion before I came across that thread.)  Doctors can be idiots.  I do think most of them are capable of diagnosing autism.  I think that most people who had trouble getting a dianosis probably got "I'm just not sure." rather than "It just ain't so."

I think you have some characteristics that are common among autistic people.  I also think you are a unique and interesting person.  I do not think (based on the little informtion I have) that you have the autistice wiring.  And I really do think that that believing you are autistic is where you are running into conflict with some aspies (I bet most of them find you delightful.)

rossco Wrote:
I agree. I have stated my experiences earlier. If someone (and people in the past and I'm sure future will) dismissed that I have autism, I would be very angry. Who understands your perspective and experiences? I would say you. This concept is a simple one and not only can be applied to SEven, but Batman55, and rossco, JennaP.....let's face it...everyone.
If someone identifies themselves as AS or HFA I assume they have reasons for it. We as a collective group do not get "benefits" for being so. We as individuals do not get "favourable" treatment. So what would be the point in attaching yourself to a diagnosis that does not apply. Think about it.


Rossco, your point is very well taken.  I agree with what you stated.  Out of respect I will not adress this issue in the future (on this thread or others).  I would like to end with an explaination.  I was not trying to be antaganistic.  I saw that there had been some frustration with dealing with people and I thought it was worth at least considering that perhaps this was the reason.  I do agree though that it is not my place to make such a judgement.

For the Limiting comments. I find that agurment null, since I told everyone that I'm already satfied with someone who means the world to me. Just because I don't do "aspies only" in dating doesn't make awful person and very limited. Yes I'm picky, thats only because I want to choose a male that can protect and care for me and is far more mature. I don't do the "Shy little guy" in the corner. I want some that isn't afrid to kiss me. To lisent, and not to feel offended when I speak my mine. So far only ONE guy fits that discription.

Now. Can you please get off my *** thank you
Noetic, thanks for sugguesting that book.  It sounds very interesting.  It is not one I have read.  I think I will try to get a copy.

BardWorld, you should be picky.  You need to pick someone that brings out the best in you and in whom you bring out the best.  Only you can say what qualities that person needs to have.  Congratulations on finding someone that meets your criteria.  It would be wonderful if everyone could be so lucky.

seven Wrote:
aspies understand auties about as well as NTs understand aspies.

everyone talks about how NTs dont understand them, what about how you dont understand aspies?

no one ever seems to notice that.

ok i tollty relte to this i have autism but im hf now so go to the as social groups but still feel like im on another plant i feel like im almost with nt people when around as people they seem to not have as many struggles as we do with autism i know it realtve kind of like cousin from to diff countrys
Nyanchan, I am not offended.  I am NT with alot of autistic traits and tendencies.  I have an autistic son.

Batman 55, I apologize.  I did not have any intention to exclude or "turn away at the door."  I did not realize I was comming across that way.  I did not intend any malice.  I actually had a positive point in my mind.  However, it is true that some things are best kept to oneself.
Seven, I apologize.  I was out of line.  As I stated before I do find you be be a delightful person.

Batman55 Wrote:
Thanks for acknowledging my contributions!


CoolYou'e welcoms.

Noetic,

Once again, your descriptions are right on in my case, anyway!  Which is just another confirmation of what you "thought" originally when I first joined here.  I'm HFA (with some Asperger traits, perhaps), but truly am mainly HFA.  This will sound odd, but how wonderful to keep reading discussions and factual that continue to confirm, and not dispute nor conflict, that I am HFA!  It just all continues to "fit" more and more.

So, I guess in effect what I am saying, for what it is worth, is "Yep, that describes it!"
Oops, meant to say "and factual information".........
Oh!  And to clarify........what I said above is not meant to reflect that I believe there should be a dividing factor between AS and HFA at all as it pertains to solidarity.  It's just meant as a personal observation for me alone.  I refer to ALL of us who fall anywhere on or within the ASD spectrum (when speaking offline at all) as the "autistic community" or "ASD community" as a whole.  (Just FYI.)
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