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Undiagnosed but obvious famous (real or fictional) Aspies:

Bob Geldoff,

Adrian Mole, of = aged 13 and 3/4, = the cappacino years and = and the weapons of mass destruction,

Data.

Can anyone else think of any?
Do you have any links?

Meiloyn Wrote:
Hmm... on the subject of finding Aspie aquaintances, this hunt has always been fun for me.

List of possible Aspergians:

Zack: Deviates from social norms (IE: Got himself a PURSE as a joke, wears Pink Floyd pajamas to gym class, tapes signs to his stomach), constant stimming (Mainly by finger drumming, but also by light leg swinging), odd sitting positions (I happen to sit in similar ways), quiet, often socially awkward, and obsesses over ... music?

Amy: Obsesses majorly over anime, has extremely vivid imagination, short attention span, energetic, acts stupid for the purpose of being funny, stims a lot, and daydreams.

Sabrina: Deathly sarcastic, slient, and obsesses over Naruto. She's not that Aspergian in my opinion actually.


Deathly sarcastic does not sound Aspie-like.  Most of us have difficulties reading sarcasm, let alone crafting it.  I can only make sarcastic jokes by copying them from other people, and storing them in long term memory.

Bob Bobson Wrote:
I don't know I'm fairly good at sarcasm, although most of the time it is by complete accident.


That's how it is for me.  People laugh at things I hadn't intended to be funny.

Meiloyn Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

Meiloyn Wrote:
Hmm... on the subject of finding Aspie aquaintances, this hunt has always been fun for me.

List of possible Aspergians:

Zack: Deviates from social norms (IE: Got himself a PURSE as a joke, wears Pink Floyd pajamas to gym class, tapes signs to his stomach), constant stimming (Mainly by finger drumming, but also by light leg swinging), odd sitting positions (I happen to sit in similar ways), quiet, often socially awkward, and obsesses over ... music?

Amy: Obsesses majorly over anime, has extremely vivid imagination, short attention span, energetic, acts stupid for the purpose of being funny, stims a lot, and daydreams.

Sabrina: Deathly sarcastic, slient, and obsesses over Naruto. She's not that Aspergian in my opinion actually.


Deathly sarcastic does not sound Aspie-like.  Most of us have difficulties reading sarcasm, let alone crafting it.  I can only make sarcastic jokes by copying them from other people, and storing them in long term memory.


Aspies (at least myself) are generally smart people, and therefore can come up with a smart joke or two.

Just remember that Aspies differ from each other greatly.


Yes, but if they're good at sarcasm, it is likely that they'd be good at in an idiosyncratic, unusual way.

My sarcasm is usually unusual, I think.

Famous fictional possible Aspies:

Gil Grissom from CSI (no social skills, obsession with insects, special talents)

Possible Aspie aquaintances:

Jamie: Doesn't really apply because he has an official AS diagnosis.

Rachel: My best friend.OCD (relating to tidiness and cleanliness), identifies with cats and horses better that people and lives with 4 cats, shows limited emotion, obsessed with caring for horses and collecting books and CDs, prefers own company, competely random sense of humour based around words that sound funny, tactile stims (security blanket), can't read people's true intentions (so ends up in relationships with unpleasant people), difficulty coping with change.

Daz: My wonderful boyfriend. Doesn't particularly like other people, paranoid, stims (leg jiggling), intense obsessions with computer games and comics, obsessively collects old games consoles and games, owns thousands of comics and can recite the entire history of both the Marvel and DC universes, collects DVDs (hundreds and hundreds of them), dislikes loud noises and bright lights, not influenced by fashion or what is considered 'appropriate', unique sense of humour, very honest, follows non-functional rituals. But mainly - he's the only person in the world who thinks the same way I do!

Ceri Chaos Wrote:
Famous fictional possible Aspies:

Gil Grissom from CSI (no social skills, obsession with insects, special talents)

Possible Aspie aquaintances:

Jamie: Doesn't really apply because he has an official AS diagnosis.

Rachel: My best friend.OCD (relating to tidiness and cleanliness), identifies with cats and horses better that people and lives with 4 cats, shows limited emotion, obsessed with caring for horses and collecting books and CDs, prefers own company, competely random sense of humour based around words that sound funny, tactile stims (security blanket), can't read people's true intentions (so ends up in relationships with unpleasant people), difficulty coping with change.

Daz: My wonderful boyfriend. Doesn't particularly like other people, paranoid, stims (leg jiggling), intense obsessions with computer games and comics, obsessively collects old games consoles and games, owns thousands of comics and can recite the entire history of both the Marvel and DC universes, collects DVDs (hundreds and hundreds of them), dislikes loud noises and bright lights, not influenced by fashion or what is considered 'appropriate', unique sense of humour, very honest, follows non-functional rituals. But mainly - he's the only person in the world who thinks the same way I do!


The bold print is completely Aspie, please refer her to the same diagnostician you went to, as I am certain she will be diagnosed (if she desires.)  I would tell her about AS, if I were you.

I also follow tons of non-functional rituals, if that is something you are attracted to, you would certainly like me.  Coffee at 2 in the morning, etc...  it's not what most people would want, but it's certainly something I like to do.

nyanchan Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
Yes, but if they're good at sarcasm, it is likely that they'd be good at in an idiosyncratic, unusual way.

My sarcasm is usually unusual, I think.


Yes. Which would make it more noticeable and therefore would possibly give you (or whoever) a reputation as a witty, sarcastic person.


The thing is though, I'm really not.  I can seem very witty and sarcastic but it comes artificially.. I copy sarcasm that I have observed from other people, and emulate it, and make it my own.  It's not "real" sarcasm.

This is similar to something like this:  Someone sees an Aspie very expressive and chatty somewhere, thus you'd think that person has good social skills and is not Aspie.  What you're missing is that the person they were interacting with, they have probably known for years, and thus have no inhibition on expression.

Now introduce that same person to a stranger and expect them to "jell," and you will see a totally different (socially disabled) person.

People get confused with me because I am "very expressive" around certain people... but the key word is certain people, in fact only people I have known for many years!

Batman55 Wrote:

Ceri Chaos Wrote:
Famous fictional possible Aspies:

Gil Grissom from CSI (no social skills, obsession with insects, special talents)

Possible Aspie aquaintances:

Jamie: Doesn't really apply because he has an official AS diagnosis.

Rachel: My best friend.OCD (relating to tidiness and cleanliness), identifies with cats and horses better that people and lives with 4 cats, shows limited emotion, obsessed with caring for horses and collecting books and CDs, prefers own company, competely random sense of humour based around words that sound funny, tactile stims (security blanket), can't read people's true intentions (so ends up in relationships with unpleasant people), difficulty coping with change.

Daz: My wonderful boyfriend. Doesn't particularly like other people, paranoid, stims (leg jiggling), intense obsessions with computer games and comics, obsessively collects old games consoles and games, owns thousands of comics and can recite the entire history of both the Marvel and DC universes, collects DVDs (hundreds and hundreds of them), dislikes loud noises and bright lights, not influenced by fashion or what is considered 'appropriate', unique sense of humour, very honest, follows non-functional rituals. But mainly - he's the only person in the world who thinks the same way I do!


The bold print is completely Aspie, please refer her to the same diagnostician you went to, as I am certain she will be diagnosed (if she desires.)  I would tell her about AS, if I were you.

I also follow tons of non-functional rituals, if that is something you are attracted to, you would certainly like me.  Coffee at 2 in the morning, etc...  it's not what most people would want, but it's certainly something I like to do.


Rachel knows about AS, knows she has some of the traits (other parts of her personality are very un-Aspie) and definitely does not want a diagnosis! She is however one of the people who first noticed my autistic traits, and is supporting me in my quest for an AS diagnosis.

Jenny from The L Word. Difficulty relating to people, doesn't show much emotion, doesn't read people's intentions, obsessed with her writing. What do you think?

Ceri Chaos Wrote:
Rachel knows about AS, knows she has some of the traits (other parts of her personality are very un-Aspie) and definitely does not want a diagnosis! She is however one of the people who first noticed my autistic traits, and is supporting me in my quest for an AS diagnosis.


The question is then, would she have a clinically significant case of AS, in your opinion?

Batman55 Wrote:

Ceri Chaos Wrote:
Rachel knows about AS, knows she has some of the traits (other parts of her personality are very un-Aspie) and definitely does not want a diagnosis! She is however one of the people who first noticed my autistic traits, and is supporting me in my quest for an AS diagnosis.


The question is then, would she have a clinically significant case of AS, in your opinion?


Probably not, looking back, I think Rachel was probably a bad example of a 'possible aspie'. She has some Aspie traits but she is very socially aware (lots of empathy) and doesn't have many problems with social interactions (she just prefers her own company).

I think most of the AS type behaviours Rachel has are caused by emotional trauma in childhood. She didn't have a particularly happy or stable upbringing. I think she's just a very intelligent person who suffers from depression and anxiety.

Ceri Chaos Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

Ceri Chaos Wrote:
Rachel knows about AS, knows she has some of the traits (other parts of her personality are very un-Aspie) and definitely does not want a diagnosis! She is however one of the people who first noticed my autistic traits, and is supporting me in my quest for an AS diagnosis.


The question is then, would she have a clinically significant case of AS, in your opinion?


Probably not, looking back, I think Rachel was probably a bad example of a 'possible aspie'. She has some Aspie traits but she is very socially aware (lots of empathy) and doesn't have many problems with social interactions (she just prefers her own company).

I think most of the AS type behaviours Rachel has are caused by emotional trauma in childhood. She didn't have a particularly happy or stable upbringing. I think she's just a very intelligent person who suffers from depression and anxiety.


Childhood emotional trauma is something that can look similar to Asperger's, in some ways, judging from some recent readings I've been doing.  Childhood emotional trauma is like a developmental disorder from without, while Asperger's is a developmental disorder from within (obviously).

I had a verbally abusive father, but that was the full extent of childhood emotional chaos for me (mostly), and comparatively there's a lot of kids who have gone through much worse things and yet still had a stereotypically normal development.

It is partly because of this easy deduction that I feel whatever developmental problem I have, must be innate--something out of my control.  Which points very obviously closer to Asperger's than to environmental factors.

Craig Nicholls the vines singer (band form australia)
The one guy in Slackers who goes into that whole thing on the Kennedy Assasination.
If you havn't seen Slackers, see it. It's a really good movie.
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