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Back in October/November on a messageboard someone, told me to stop using the fact that I have Asperger's Syndrome as an "excuse" and that got me really mad and I wanted to call them something that would hit home. I called them something really nasty, something I really shouldn't have. I was banned from the message board (which didn't bother me because I was trying to get them to erase me anyway). Someone created a faulse account on SheezyArt just to flame me and sent me a link to a nasty site which they had created about me. They were trying to offend me by making a sick parody of Asperger's Syndrome and taking everything I had ever said on the message board and using it against me and making it into a symptom of "*** Bugger's" syndrome. My parents about hit the wall when I showed them the site. My mother e-mailed everyone that might be involved and then the host of the site. The site host was shocked too but said they couldn't erase it because it had been made private. When I contacted the people involved they said it was my fault that the site was made. The person I called that nasty name has it worse than me. Okay, but I don't see people making website to make fun of her and she's got like a bazillion cyber friends. She's the one who attacked me first but would never admit it. I posted about this on a diffrent message board and someone from the previous messageboard joined it just to tell me to shut up and that I had it comming to me and that what was written about me was just a joke and that I should lighten up and find it funny too. I agree what I called her was a very horrible word but did I go and make a website about her? No and at least I was going to appolige to her but after I saw this I was glad I didn't.

KalahariMeerkat Wrote:
Back in October/November on a messageboard someone, told me to stop using the fact that I have Asperger's Syndrome as an "excuse" and that got me really mad and I wanted to call them something that would hit home. I called them something really nasty, something I really shouldn't have. I was banned from the message board (which didn't bother me because I was trying to get them to erase me anyway). Someone created a faulse account on SheezyArt just to flame me and sent me a link to a nasty site which they had created about me. They were trying to offend me by making a sick parody of Asperger's Syndrome (they actualy took the AFF logo and stuck in in their sick joke). Aand taking everything I had ever said on the message board and using it against me and making it into a symptom of "*** Bugger's" syndrome. My parents about hit the wall when I showed them the site. My mother e-mailed everyone that might be involved and then the host of the site. The site host was shocked too but said they couldn't erase it because it had been made private. When I contacted the people involved they said it was my fault that the site was made. The person I called that nasty name has it worse than me. Okay, but I don't see people making website to make fun of her and she's got like a bazillion cyber friends. She's the one who attacked me first but would never admit it. I posted about this on a diffrent message board and someone from the previous messageboard joined it just to tell me to shut up and that I had it comming to me and that what was written about me was just a joke and that I should lighten up and find it funny too. I agree what I called her was a very horrible word but did I go and make a website about her? No and at least I was going to appolige to her but after I saw this I was glad I didn't.

Change your email (use a hotmail account or a gmail instead of a more personal one) and use a different SN and use that instead of a one you've been using more often.

After that, just delet or cut off any communication with the people that did this. Who says you have to give them the satisfaction of getting you angry with a website or an email? If you can block emails from these people and block IMs from them, provided you use an IM service. If they get so happy for revenge against you, don't give them a chance to do so, then they'll either scramble and claw to get you reeled in or leave you alone.

Remember, you do not have to go to any link they show you, or read anything they want you to read which has this intent to get back at you.
The comments they left on my Sheezy page are how I noticed it even exhisted. The comments in themselves are nasty and the Sheezy people pretend they aren't there no matter how often I tell them to do something about them. I'm just quoting what these people said on my Sheezy Art page:

1. "http://lilymud.pbwiki.com/Fandom%20Members

AHA . C ! ! . U R ON THER ! U SUX U GUT MINTIONEDED ALOTS ! BECUS U SUX ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

http://lilymud.pbwiki.com/Asperger's%20Syndrome

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALULZ ! ! GO FUK U"

2. "O M G . U gut soooo BANNNED from lilymud. u sux so bad . ! ! ! !
whut u gut 4 picking on Weaver , u f**** bullly. u r art sux . u rude priick ! ! ! go a way , no1 want s u on TLKFAA or lilymud . u assbugger

! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! "

You can't acess the site unless you are a member of Lillymud and then you have to ask for it. The people who run wiki were very upset that people were using their site for such terrible purposes and said they would delete it but couldn't because the site was made private. Wiki is somewhat simmaliar to My Space.
The people who run wiki tried to delete the who site these people made (supposidly) but couldn't because the people who made it made it private after my mother contacted them.
That is absolutely unbelievable!!  Rossco I am impressed that you have been able to maintain yourself so well.  That PM was completely out of line and beyond offensive.  I do not understand why he is continually  allowed to bully other members of this forum.

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Your post on John Best's blog is to be removed immediately for defamation of character. Further - you are to ask the moderators to remove the post here on Aspies for Freedom where you replaced my words with other words - an act of libel.

If that is not done in the next 24 to 48 hours proceedings will commence for a violation of the Wrongs Act 1958 (Victoria).

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08-13-2007 11:28 PM
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This is a PM that a member of the forum sent me. This is bullying

Wilky, you pretty much summed up my feelings.  I would have to say what you described was some pretty serious bullying.

Timelord Wrote:
(Apologies to the mods but this needs to be said)

Wilky, JennaP and Rossco - all three of you clearly oppose my right to defend myself, and also my attempt to protect Joeker from himself. To that I have simply three words;

Go f*ck yourselves.

I have done NOTHING wrong.

Suggest this thread be locked.


Bullying others is not the same thing as defending yourself.  You have strong  habit of bullying then  professing, "but they deserved it so it was just self defense."  That is utter nonsense.

How many people here have you threatened with lawsuits?
Didn't you brag about all of your lawsuits on one of the threads?

This may be difficult for you to understand, but it is not a criminal offense for people to disagree with Timelord.

It is also a ridiculous habit our yours to cry "Close the thread!" whenever the truth comes out.

I haven't until now responded to this thread, because I did not know the history behind the posts.

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Poor joeker did everything 'up front' on this forum and openly talked about a disagreement between himself and Timelord. Whereas Timelord, giving the impression that butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, here on AFF, went behind the scenes to do all his dirty work on on joeker.


Sadly I have seen this kind of behaviour before on forums ( behind the scenes & misuse of the edit button, causing a great deal of distress to the victims).

Sometimes the only defence the bullied has against a bully is evidence.

Evidence is never pleasant to see be it visible or invisible bruising, but nevertheless the victim has a right to produce such and to make it public for their own protection.

All victims have a right to a defend themselves against a bully.

Can anyone explain to me why Timelord is givien free reign on this board to bully whomever disagrees with him?  I avoided posting for weeks because his behavior is more than I can politely stomache.
timelord,you know that I usually stay neutral,but....

threats of legal action should be a last ditch resort,not first port of call.

Timelord Wrote:
Thank you, M! Well said! Publishing of PM's (a la the immediate above post) are not on.


I have to disagree with this one - PM's are the property of the recipient, and they can do what they like with them. Also, PM's are often used to manipulate discussions outside of public view, and thus are often relevant to discussions.

PM at your own peril.

And more specifically, Timelord - I honestly believe that you're trying to help people. When you find someone you believe is standing in the way of this, you attack them. Unfortunately, this includes people you misinterpret, people who disagree with you over minor issues, or people who even suggest they side with others on your list of enemies. Plus insignificant bloggers, but that's another debate.

Here's my advice: Make a list of autistic rights priorities, or human rights issues in general - With the worst issues at the top, and the least significant at the bottom. Divide this list in half, with the worst things on one side. The first list is a list of things that you can put effort into doing something about. The second list is a list of things you should keep from distracting you.
see folks,what happens when aspies,hormones and a small space collide?

this is why,alas,Aspergia and Infinity Island could never work.

we are TOO committed.
KalahariMeerkat,
this may help you & others on the forum deal with internet bullying & bullying in general.
internet bullying

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Cyberbullying on the Internet
Cyber bullies, cyber bullying, flame mail, hate mail

The Internet provides the perfect forum for cyberbullies, individuals whose aim is to gain gratification from the distress caused by provoking and tormenting others. The anonymity, ease of provocation, and almost infinite source of targets means the Internet is full of predators from pedophiles targeting children to serial bullies targeting ... anybody.

Cyberbullies get a perverse sense of satisfaction (called gratification) from sending people flame mail and hate mail. Flame mail is an email whose contents are designed to inflame and enrage. Hate mail is hatred (including prejudice, racism, sexism etc) in an email.

Serial bullies, whose behaviour profile you'll find in full at Bully OnLine, harbour a lot of internal aggression which they direct at others. This may include projection, false criticism and patronising sarcasm whilst contributing nothing of any value. It may also include a common tactic of "a number of people have emailed me backchannel to agree with me". This is standard bully-speak which I've experienced on several forums. In every case it's a fabrication or a distortion - usually the former. It's also a variant of the serial bully head teacher who says "a number of parents have complained to me about you...". When challenged, the identity of the alleged complainants can't be disclosed because it's "confidential". The purpose of this tactic is to wind people up. Don't be fooled into believing it has any validity - it doesn't.

People who bully are adept at creating conflict between those who would otherwise pool negative information about them. The method of creating conflict is provocation which bullies delight in because they know they can always coerce at least one person to respond in a manner which can then be distorted and used to further flame and inflame people. And so it goes on. The bully then sits back and gains gratification from seeing others engage in destructive behaviour towards each other.

Many serial bullies are also serial attention-seekers. More than anything else they want attention. It doesn't matter what type of attention they get, positive or negative, as long as they can provoke someone into paying them attention. It's like a 2-year-old child throwing a tantrum to get attention from a parent. The best way to treat bullies is to refuse to respond and to refuse to engage them - which they really hate. In other words, do not reply to their postings, and on forums carry on posting without reference to their postings as if they didn't exist. In other words, treat nobodies as nobodies.

The anger of a serial bully is especially apparent when they come across someone who can see through them to espy the weak, inadequate, immature, dysfunctional aggressive individual behind the mask. For instance, when serial bullies see themselves described at http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm they usually send me an abusive email.

If you receive abusive emails or flame mails or hate mail, you can forward it to abuse@isp where "isp" is the service provider the abuser is using, eg "aol.com" or "yahoo.com". Although Internet service providers may not act on every complaint, the more complaints they receive about a particular individual (with examples of abusive email) the more likely they are to close down the person's account.

The objectives of bullies are Power, Control, Domination, Subjugation. They get a kick out of seeing you react. It doesn't matter how you react, the fact they've successful provoked a reaction is, to the bully, a sign that their attempt at control have been successful. After that, it's a question of wearing you down. The more your try to explain, negotiate, conciliate, etc the more gratification they obtain from your increasingly desperate attempts to communicate with them. Understand that it is not possible to communicate in a mature adult manner with a disordered individual who's emotionally ***.

The Number One rule for dealing with this type of behaviour is: don't respond, don't interact and don't engage. This is not as easy to do as it sounds. It's a natural response to want to defend yourself, and to put the person right. However, never argue with a serial bully; it's not a mature adult discussion, but like dealing with a child or immature teenager; whilst the serial bully may be an adult on the outside, on the inside they are like a child who's never grown up - and probably never will. Serial bullies and harassers often have disordered thinking patterns and do not share the same thoughts or values as you.

The second rule is to keep all abusive emails. Create a new folder, perhaps called "Abuse", and move hate mail and flame mail into this folder. You don't have to read it. When the time comes to take action, this folder of hate mail and flame mail is your evidence. Bullies, especially cyberbullies, are obsessive people and if their account is closed down you may start receiving mail from another address. This can later be compared to the abusive emails you've already received to identify the perpetrator. You'll find the same words, phrases and strategies occurring.

The third rule is to understand bullying. Read through Bully OnLine carefully, understand the profile of the serial bully. Recognise that you are not dealing with a person who has the same mindset as yourself. Bullying, and especially cyberbullying, has links with stalking - see http://www.bullyonline.org/related/stalking.htm for links to stalking sites.

Rule four is get help. If you're a young person, this is essential. Even mature experienced adults often cannot handle bullying and harassment by themselves. Sometimes you are dealing with a severely disordered and dangerous individual.

Rule five is become alert to provocation. It could be called "The Baiting Game". A provocative comment is made and those who respond spontaneously in irritation (eg non-assertively) are then encouraged to engage in conflict with those who respond without irritation (eg assertively). The provoker watches, waits and stirs the pot with the occasional additional provocation. What interests me is the sense of gratification that a provoker gains from watching others indulge in destructive interaction initiated by him- or herself. In this context, gratification is a perverse form of satisfaction akin to, but distinct from, pleasure.

The sixth rule is become an observer. Although you may be the target of the cyberbully's anger, you can train yourself to act as an observer. This takes you out of the firing line and enables you to study the perpetrator and collect evidence. When people use bullying behaviours they project their own weaknesses, failings and shortcomings on to others. In other words, they are telling you about themselves by fabricating an accusation based on something they themselves have done wrong. Whenever you receive a flame mail or hate mail, train yourself to instinctively ask the question, "What is this person revealing about themselves this time?"

The seventh rule is decide if you want to take action, and if so, prepare carefully and strike hard. Sometimes refusing to respond and engage will result in the cyberbully losing interest and going off to find someone easier to torment. Sometimes though, especially if there has been interaction in the past, the cyberbully is so obsessed that s/he cannot and will not let go. You will have to make that person let go, but only through swift, hard, legal action, and only when the time is right. Don't deal with the abuser yourself (this encourages bullies and stalkers), use a third party such as a solicitor.

Finally a reminder - never try to mediate, negotiate, conciliate or otherwise deal with a bully or stalker yourself. Always remember Rule #1: don't respond, don't interact and don't engage.

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