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Some people say that people High Functioning Autism have more speech problems than those with AS. I am officially diagnosed AS and have also some speech problems. You probably wouldn't understand my english, and I am norwegian.
Some people say it is the same.
Peopel with HFA had speech delays so they talked late and peopel with AS don't. They talk on time just like everybody else. Only way for a aspie to have a speech delay is if they had hearing loss, were abused, or something happened that prevented them from talking such as being negleted, or unless  they were brought to a foreign country when as babies because they got adopted so it will slow their language down.

Georgije Wrote:
so then the only major difference between AS and HFA is a speech delay and that means i have HFA?

i'm not sure at what age i started talking, i just talk a bit slowly now and can't pronounce some sounds


It's not just speech delay, if you fulful the criteria for autism in the DSM and your IQ is over 70 then you're HFA. AS excludes severe delays in the criteria.

In practice however, if you present as AS but were more classically autistic in childhood, many diagnose AS, regardless of developmental delays.

HFA also doesn't always mean speech delay - some start very early and then "regress", for example. The main thing is that speech isn't used to communicate as much as with AS, for example HFA kids may repeat words and label things they see but it's more echolalic, they communicate a lot less (or a lot less "normally") than AS kids at that age.

Something you might want to look up is nonverbal learning disability, it's something that overlaps with AS but (in theory) not with HFA. It focuses mainly on balance & coordination problems, difficulties with spatial thinking etc. and also results in a lot of similar problems (including social, since nonverbal communication plays a big role socially).

Georgije Wrote:
well i'm certain i have no problems with spatial thinking because i got rated very good at that on an IQ test i took some time ago (i got around 130 overall)

Yeah spatial is my strength too. With those kinds of handwriting problems, if spatial isn't a problem then it's often either a specific motor skill/control problem, lax joints or Dyspraxia (both common with AS).

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and one of my hobbies is making houses out of paper which sounds much simpler than it seems, but you have to imagine and calculate all the houses' walls' dimensions and angles and transform them into twodimensional images on paper which you then cut out and fold into the right shapes.

Cool hobby Smile

I have too little control over my fingers and hands to do stuff like that properly, I have weird sort of bendy joints in my fingers. They don't bend backwards too much but sideways (twist).

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i saw on the wikipedia article that people with NLD are bad at remembering images, i think i'm average at that, but i do have problems remembering some names of objects, people and places.

Yeah, I mean I am not good at holding images in my mind (really, really abysmal short-term memory/focus), and I have a lot of trouble actually making my eyes/brain SEE rather than just look, so my perception is more spatial in that sense. When I think of a room I am familiar with, I can sort of feel the shapes of the objects and the texture of them, with occasional glimpses of visual details.

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i also can't see why a person with aspergers couldn't have a slight speech disability, if it would be a 1 in a million chance there would still be 6000 people like me in the world Wink.

Well if the writing problem is due to Dyspraxia (with or without AS) then speech can also be affected.

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sometimes i remember something good to say, but the conversation has already passed on to another topic

Story of my life - I do have a bit of delay in processing receptive language (in that, a lot of the time, when someone talks to me the words don't make sense, and it takes a couple of seconds for the meaning to drop into place. Sometimes I can be asked a question by someone, especially if I am not familiar with their voice, and it's not that I don't comprehend what they say, I can't even make out the words. It can be hours before my brain suddenly "translates").

So a lot of the time I first have to wait for my brain to decypher the words, then I have to see if I comprehend the meaning, have any opinions on the subject and so on. By the time I realise I have something interesting to say on the subject, the conversation has long moved on.

Mind you, most of the time I am not an active part in conversation, but just sort of listen into other peoples' conversations.

Have a look at this to see if the balance, co-ordination & handwriting stuff fits this profile: http://www.dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk/ (Dyspraxia is common on the autistic spectrum in general although "clumsiness" is sometimes associated solely with AS - this is not true as such though as motor difficulties have long been associated with autism spectrum disorders, and there are different kinds of clumsiness. The AS "stereotype" may involve Dyspraxia, but it mainly involves the NVLD profile of learning/intellectual skills)

Georgije Wrote:
i think i might have both aspergers and dyspraxia, i found this on their website:

"There may also be overlaps with conditions such as ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder), ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder), Asperger's Syndrome..."

That combo goes by the lovely name of DAMP (Disorders of Attention, Motor Control and Perception) Wink

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"Others may have articulatory dyspraxia, which causes difficulties with speaking and pronunciation."

Yep, I have that to a certain degree too...

The thing is with Dyspraxia, I just don't know how much of what is listed on there (social stuff, perception, organisation etc.) is always part of Dyspraxia and how much is stuff that was "carried into" Dyspraxia from observing people on the autistic spectrum who also had Dyspraxia.

http://www.dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk/he....php?id=11

as i understand this, dyspraxia is commonly seen together with autistic disorders so it shouldn't be too strange for somebody to have both aspergers and dyspraxia. dyspraxia seems to be so common that it mostly isn't even given as a seperate diagnosis, it isn't explicitly written, but i think that also includes articulatory dyspraxia.


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and one of my hobbies is making houses out of paper which sounds much simpler than it is, but you have to imagine and calculate all the houses' walls' dimensions and angles and transform them into twodimensional images on paper which you then cut out and fold into the right shapes.


Cool hobby Smile

I have too little control over my fingers and hands to do stuff like that properly, I have weird sort of bendy joints in my fingers. They don't bend backwards too much but sideways (twist).


i can do it with a ruler and some other geometric tools. but i can only draw with those, i ask my dad to colour it and draw the details because if i tried it would ruin the whole thing. i am terrible at colouring because i cant apply the equal pressure everywhere

Georgije Wrote:
as i understand this, dyspraxia is commonly seen together with autistic disorders so it shouldn't be too strange for somebody to have both aspergers and dyspraxia. dyspraxia seems to be so common that it mostly isn't even given as a seperate diagnosis, it isn't explicitly written, but i think that also includes articulatory dyspraxia.


That is true, however it is still a diagnosis in its own right.

Could it be hypnagogic or hypnopompic hallucinations?

Georgije Wrote:
it's probably just low blood pressure and probably has nothing to do with my mental condition


Could well be, I get stuff like that sometimes with blood sugar drops, sometimes causes a little anxiety attack.

i have another question: do all people with aspergers have music playing in their heads and all NTs haven't?

because i never even thought it was something special until i saw the question about it in the aspie quiz

Georgije Wrote:
i have another question: do all people with aspergers have music playing in their heads and all NTs haven't?

because i never even thought it was something special until i saw the question about it in the aspie quiz



O hell. O didn't even know this was an aspie thing till you brought it up just now.

I always have music running in my head, unless there is music playing around me that I can get into. Then I just sync to whatever is playing around me.

I know I have head many people talk about having a tune stuck in their head. It struck me just now they probably don't mean an annoying tune or one they don't want - they find it unusual to have *any* tune running in their head?

Georgije Wrote:
i have another question: do all people with aspergers have music playing in their heads and all NTs haven't?

because i never even thought it was something special until i saw the question about it in the aspie quiz


There is no one thing "all" NTs have or "all" Aspies have Smile

It's probably among the thousands of little quirks that are more common on the Spectrum but lots of NTs have stuff like that as well (I don't know if you are familiar with the term "ear worm" but it's fairly common for people to have a tune or melody playing in their head if it's catchy, or if they have woken up to a radio alarm clock), and lots of Aspies don't have music "playing" all the time.

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