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cant_think_of_a_username Wrote:
This post really infuriated me. Am still trying to word my response. i wish
I could find a way to contact "Maribth kramer" and tell her what I really think of her efforts to "work" with her son.


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Not what I was hoping for, January 26, 2007
This book held a lot of promise for me. As the mother of a 7 year old son with autism, I was hoping to read about how these children started on the path of intervention and therapy at a young age, and had terrific outcomes. What I got was instead rather depressing. First, it is not an easy book to read. The author seems to get mired in side information, such as the use of the word "genius" for far too long, distracting from the stories of the lives of the characters.
While I know my son will live with autism for his whole life, we always hold out hope that some of the behaviors that manifest in his place on the spectrum will be outgrown. That did not seem to be the case for some of the people in this book. I was very disturbed at Andre and his use of puppets as an adult. I fully understand that as an autisic person, he needs to use whatever strategies he can to cope, and I have no judgement on him. I can only keep working with my own child to try to lead him out of these behaviors.
I would not recommend this book to parents of young autistic children. I think it has the ability to dash some of the hope we need to have.




One word comes to mind upon reading that:

"ARRRRRGHHHHHHH!"

Nuff said. Nothing can be done constructively about it. Don't she would be able to "get it" yet, contacting here would only cause conflict and make her feel bad (either angry or guilty)

I followed the link to amazon and read 1 comment by "Vivian" who thought the opposite of "Marybeth". There was a sentence saying "1 person does not think this comment add anything to the discussion. Do you?" I said Yes. I hope I got the question right because "Vivian" was writing good stuff.

Ryuujin Wrote:
Ok, let me get this straight, she doesn't recommend you read this book, because it tells the truth. If she had read a book that lied through it's teeth, would it have been a better buy?


Sometimes NT's WANT to be lied to.

Case is point: Does my *** look fat?

In this case, it's probably more along the lines of "will my child ever change enough that I won't be ashamed any longer?" I mean, god forbid her child grows up to talk through puppets.

Perhaps I am reading more into her motivation than is there.

Pisses me off.

Ryuujin Wrote:
I just can't decide if ultimatly it's damaging to let people live in that kind of fantasy world, or whether it's needlessly cruel to take that safety blanket away from them as long as it isn't hurting anyoen else...


Been pondered before. By folks at a much higher level than us, I'm sure.

Irreducible complexity. Google it.
OK; I just did Google it, to see what came up. The Wiki article that comes up is actually pretty well written--shows both sides of the idea. There are of course more arguments for the creation side of things; but that one's the main argument, the one many of the others are based on. Basically the point is that there are two sides to the issue, both held by many people and not just a fringe minority; and teaching only one of them would make our public schools biased. If you include theistic evolution (especially the theory in which the "jumps" in punctuated equilibrium are interpreted as divine or extra-universal intervention), then it may in fact be that the majority of people believe some higher being had a hand in how the world came about... a far cry from evolution being the one accepted theory.

Until the issue's settled, I think they ought to teach both--in high school, when kids can make their own choices.
No, it doesn't; but it does leave both theories open to discussion...
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