01-04-2005, 04:17 PM
01-04-2005, 09:44 PM
I found one, took it, got 19, but im not sure if that reflects me very well, In person I can be rather cruel to people who annoy me. That, needless to say, happens rather often, although most of the time its just because I say exactly what I am thinking, this tends to upset people as my thoughts often are, shall we say, unflattering.
01-05-2005, 04:15 PM
That sounds more or less like how I feel. I also think that perhaps I am deliberately caustic to keep anyone from trying to get near me, socially speaking, in order to avoid having to deal with someone as myself, not just the perona I have adopted for that particular environment. Does anyone else do that? Consciously construct separate personas for separate environments? I know that it is normal for people to act differently in different situations, but I wonder if perhaps what I do is going a bit further, at one point I even named them.
01-05-2005, 04:27 PM
I also, I dont go out much, but it gets difficult in high school to avoid them completely. I dont go to the lunch room, or any other place with large numbers of people, but a certain amount of contact is unavoidable. I use it as practice.
01-06-2005, 04:19 PM
That is similar to my experiences, indeed, event with those NTs whose presence I do not mind I am compelled to maintain a 'bubble' as I think of them.
01-31-2005, 05:10 PM
comign up with ctachy pointless phrases is a time honored tradition, and not really worth bothering with. As for what si known about these 'mirror neurons,' I suspect most of it comes form functional imaging studies, in which activity in different aprts of the brain is imaged in real time while subjects do various things. Of course, the analysis is not foolproof, but it is worth considering.
02-03-2005, 07:05 PM
Image? you mean the image taken of the brain during functional imaging? No, I dont think those are reversed... why would they be? This is kinda confusing. Hmmmm... keep in mind that 'mirror neurons' is just a term and does not mean that they are mirror images of anything, it refers to their function as a component of human empathy and nonverbal communication.
02-06-2005, 09:23 PM
Shimy? wuzzat?
02-24-2005, 08:39 PM
If this theory is correct, then wouldn't children who are blind from birth also have autistic-like development issues? How do "mirror neurons" fire if you can't see anything whatsoever (assuming it's linked to sight)?
02-25-2005, 08:49 AM
Mister Empirical Wrote:
If this theory is correct, then wouldn't children who are blind from birth also have autistic-like development issues? How do "mirror neurons" fire if you can't see anything whatsoever (assuming it's linked to sight)?
There have actually been quite a lot of observations on similarities between autistic and blind or deaf kids. "Blind-isms" (stims and ways of feeling/touching objects seen in blind people) are quite common in autistic kids for example.
"Visual Impairments and Autism"
http://www.tsbvi.edu/Education/vmi/autism-and-vi.htm
http://www.ssc.mhie.ac.uk/archive/procee...ss.html#21
"Possible Visual Experiences in Autism"
http://www.autismtoday.com/articles/Poss...Visual.doc
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Blind individuals have a different set of senses to rely on. They “see” the world through their ears, nose, fingers, etc. The recent research has shown that some similar behaviours occur in children who are blind and in those who are autistic: impairments in social interaction and communication, stereotyped behaviours (commonly termed as “blindisms”), e.g., such behaviours as rocking and rhythmic head banging, spinning objects, perimeter hugging and needing to touch everything in a room before settling down, etc. Concerning autism this is often accounted for as obsessional rituals, without explaining a functional base to these behaviours. Many people with autism state that the original cause of these behaviours is of a perceptual nature.
Blind individuals have a different set of senses to rely on. They “see” the world through their ears, nose, fingers, etc. The recent research has shown that some similar behaviours occur in children who are blind and in those who are autistic: impairments in social interaction and communication, stereotyped behaviours (commonly termed as “blindisms”), e.g., such behaviours as rocking and rhythmic head banging, spinning objects, perimeter hugging and needing to touch everything in a room before settling down, etc. Concerning autism this is often accounted for as obsessional rituals, without explaining a functional base to these behaviours. Many people with autism state that the original cause of these behaviours is of a perceptual nature.
02-25-2005, 08:12 PM
Very interesting, I hadn't heard of blindisms before.
I also had another thought: this theory lends support to the idea that people tend to act out what they see in the movies and on TV. They may intellectually decide not to do it, but the same brain chemistry will occur whether they pull the trigger or watch the "bad guy" on TV do it. The autistic, on the other hand, would be immune to the effects of the sort of programming, which some want to ban from the public airwaves. I've always thought the censorship types were insane to make that argument, but maybe they're feeling impulses that I'm not.
I also had another thought: this theory lends support to the idea that people tend to act out what they see in the movies and on TV. They may intellectually decide not to do it, but the same brain chemistry will occur whether they pull the trigger or watch the "bad guy" on TV do it. The autistic, on the other hand, would be immune to the effects of the sort of programming, which some want to ban from the public airwaves. I've always thought the censorship types were insane to make that argument, but maybe they're feeling impulses that I'm not.
02-26-2005, 07:38 PM
Mister Empirical Wrote:
They may intellectually decide not to do it, but the same brain chemistry will occur whether they pull the trigger or watch the "bad guy" on TV do it. The autistic, on the other hand, would be immune to the effects of the sort of programming, which some want to ban from the public airwaves. I've always thought the censorship types were insane to make that argument, but maybe they're feeling impulses that I'm not.
Hmmm... you may well be on to something there! I have often had similar thoughts about censorship types seeming very irrational in the types of things they opposed to, but obviously if NT brains tend towards imitation so much more, then that would explain why such things *do* genuinely influence people in ways that I have not really thought of before.
03-04-2005, 04:03 PM
The best way to assess the truth of this is to examine how well we can imitate things by seeing others do them... I personally know that I am very bad at doing something I have seen someone else do, I have to do it myself to have any idea how it actually works.
10-28-2007, 01:05 PM
Gareth Wrote:
the term Mirror Neurons possibly comes from the strange function of neural networks that happens when one neural network "teaches" another: they begin to mirror each other. This has only been observed on a small scale but most likely applys to the human brain as well as simulations.
So this means that "mirror neurons" as such haven't actually been located in the human brain - their presence is only inferred? So they might or might not really exist in reality.
11-03-2007, 12:59 AM
So that means birds can talk? I got told they couldn't but obviously this was misinformation. Anyway, that is a fascinating example.