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Yet Another article saying that they've found the 'Holy Grail'! Rolleyes

BY JAMIE TALAN
March 15, 2007, 6:21 PM EDT

Putting the pieces of the complex puzzle of autism together bit by genetic bit, scientists at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory have identified dozens of spontaneous mutations that lead to a common pathway to the brain disorder.

Until recently, scientists have been looking for several specific genes that run in families, which could help explain why some children are born with autism.

Last month, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced that 1 in 150 children are born with autism.

In this new study, published Friday in Science, Jonathan Sebat, Michael Wigler and their colleagues found that 10 percent of the 195 autistic patients they studied had evidence of tiny spontaneous chromosomal mutations -- each with a different gene involved. Ultimately, Sebat said he believes this could help some parents who are seeking to have more children but fearful that they will take another genetic hit with their next child.

A spontaneous mutation means it is not inherited.

According to Sebat, an associate professor of genetics at the Long Island research lab, technology until now could not provide enough resolution to see many of these small chromosomal abnormalities.

Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, which include a pair of sex chromosomes. People differ substantially in the chromosomal structure and can have repeats or deletions in stretches of the DNA, according to earlier work by the same team.

Scientists are not sure why.

"In autism, there are a certain number of individuals who have more variation in the number of copies of genes," said Pat Levitt, director of the Vanderbilt Kennedy Center in Tennessee and an expert on autism who is not involved in the study. "This is an important finding."

In blood samples from the autistic patients and an equal number of unaffected siblings and parents, 10 percent of them had spontaneous genetic mutations compared with 1 percent of those in a control group. In families with more than one autistic child, there were very few of these spontaneous chromosomal rearrangements. It's akin to a reshuffling of the chromosomes.

But what was most surprising is that all of the mutations appeared at different places along the genome, suggesting, as Sebat said, "that there are so many possible places where you can get a hit."

The end result of these genetic mutations is that these children have impaired social interactions, difficulty communicating, restricted interests and language deficits.

"The brain has a particular way of responding to many different types of cognitive impairment," Sebat said.

The scientists will now figure out what each of these genes do, so that a common theme might emerge to explain autism, Sebat said.

The work was done in collaboration with others at Cold Spring Harbor as well as Daniel Geschwind of the University of California at Los Angeles and scientists at institutions around the world.

"These are rare changes, dispersed across the genome. They tell us that autism may be the final common path for many different genetic abnormalities," said Dr. Thomas Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health.

The samples used in the study came from the Autism Genetic Resource Exchange and the institute's Center for Collaborative Genetic Studies of Mental Disorders.

[Source:  http://www.newsday.com/news/health/ny-hs...mailedlink ]
Interesting! To say the least (which I do now to move "racket-threads" out of sight).
HAHA
some call it "spontaneous mutations" others call it god.
Ten percent???????

BAH!

In other fields research, they simply dismiss any "genetic" claims that can only explain ten percent of all AD cases.  Ten percent is chump change.
I agree with DogBrain, to an extent.  If they were to repeat the study again and again with larger numbers of autistic individuals, and still got around ten percent, I might concede there is SOMETHING there.  But obviously, it's not what's causing autism, or a much higher percentage of autistics would have it.  Still, it could be related to the way different autie traits are displayed.
In Alzheimer's disease research, for years, there has been a lot of effort spent on investigating EAFAD (early onset familial Alzheimer's disease).  There are two unique things about EAFAD.  It starts very early (sometimes in the 30s), and it is obviously genetic, traceable to a handful of very specific mutations on very specific genes.  So, for years, the field has been investing enormous amounts of effort into dissecting EAFAD.  The conclusion?  While it had some generally useful results, EAFAD research has been, for the most part, a complete waste of time in understanding the far more common sporadic LOAD (late-onset AD), which makes up the vast majority of AD cases.  And now it's back to the drawing board.  Since I work in AD research, I have a jaundiced eye for any claims linking any complex behavioral condition to a single gene or single genetic variation.

Luai_lashire Wrote:
I agree with DogBrain, to an extent.  If they were to repeat the study again and again with larger numbers of autistic individuals, and still got around ten percent, I might concede there is SOMETHING there.  But obviously, it's not what's causing autism, or a much higher percentage of autistics would have it.  Still, it could be related to the way different autie traits are displayed.


I have read many sources that indicated hereditary factors for Asperger's/autism.  Indeed, while not DXed or even implicated, once I discovered I was likely Asperger's I simply had a look at my parents and other family members... and I saw the signs.

This "spontaneous mutation" crap is making me grind my teeth.  It simply doesn't apply to me... my Asperger's is in the family... both sides of it.

My brother also has AS (not DXed but not he is so obvious, it's almost funny) so I think this points more toward a hereditary component...

Well, I hope that wherever the changes, mutations, epigenes, etc are, they stay well hidden.  Because if they are found too easily, it will be an easy thing to abort those children shown to have the genes in utero.  And I for one don't think we have a disability, just a different way of looking at the world.  That it's incompatable with the way the NT culture is set up is immaterial, it's still valid.
Alison
I remember in that Indiana Jones movie, his father told him to leave the grail behind.

If they ever find out what makes people autistic, I hope the do the same.

Meiloyn Wrote:
I remember in that Indiana Jones movie, his father told him to leave the grail behind.

If they ever find out what makes people autistic, I hope the do the same.


Well said...

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