Aspies For Freedom - Baron-Cohen "Mind in the Eyes"

If you folks have the time, could you list what you scored on the Baron-Cohen test "Mind in the Eyes"?

I would also like you to list age/gender unless it is in your profile. I am especially interested in age to see if the adult Aspies have a "normal" score, as analytical ability tends correct developmental deficiencies over time... or so it has for me. I am the most analytical person I know, that may be why I scored so high on this test.

Here is the link:
http://glennrowe.net/BaronCohen/Faces/EyesTest.aspx

Solana Wrote:

I scored 28. I've read a couple of books on body language, so I'm not *too* bad at that kind of thing. :-)

I scored 27, and I am male and 25.

I think I scored so well because I am highly analytical and I've seen so many movies. In films I can observe facial expression from afar, and notice the subject matter and how the character spoken to reacts.

I feel like a scientist put here to study social interaction, observing certain behaviors (such as facial expression) under a microscope.

I think intensive analysis of social environment, esp. if you feel a need to fit in (as I do), would not be uncommon among Aspies.

Logical paradox Wrote:

Solana Wrote:

I scored 28. I've read a couple of books on body language, so I'm not *too* bad at that kind of thing. :-)

Oops. I forgot to mention that I am female and 27.

That reminds me, I am male at 17.

You'll probably find that in 5-6 years from now, your score will improve to at least 20, I am willing to bet.

Samuel Wrote:

Male 20 Score:30
I have no problem understanding these or reading most body-language I think.

Are you sure you are Aspie?

Most people here list a score around 15, even some of us who are 30 or so years old!

I am 25 and I scored 27, but maybe because I am a visually-minded Aspie. I think in pictures more than anything else.

Noetic Wrote:

Has anyone else here noticed that reading comics (as opposed to watching TV or cartoons) helps in learning to interpret facial expressions? I had a phase when I was younger where I focussed on drawing eyes a lot, but I could never make them fit in faces properly, so in comics I often study the eyes in particular.

I find that when I try to emulate a facial expression, I sort of see the image I learned it from, or a mental snapshot of a person, and adopt the expression to some degree (a bit like in the show "Heroes", when Peter sees/feels the person whose skill he is using). Unfortunately I have noticed that this doesn't always work, e.g. my face doesn't always seem to obey Tongue

I have learned nuanced facial expressions mostly from movies.

I am an associative/visual-learner, so this may be why my score of 27 seems a bit high for an Aspie, even at age 25.

Intensive visual analysis is my niche, however.

Bob Bobson Wrote:

I got a scoreof 20
I'm 19 and male.

That test being multiple choice made it so much easier, without the choices I wouldn't have a clue what to answer on most of them.

I agree, I was highly analytical with the choices.

If I had to do the test quickly (or at a normal rate) I would have probably gotten less than 20.

StuartM Wrote:

I'm male, 18 and got 27 which is a little unexpected as was the score of 12 I got for the systemising test (people with AS apparently score on average between 40 and 50). But as far as I'm concerned my diagnosis is definitely not in doubt.

Hmm I also scored low on the systemizing test. Perhaps we are in the same part of the spectrum?

Are you poor at math, BTW?

Noetic Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

I think I scored so well because I am highly analytical and I've seen so many movies. In films I can observe facial expression from afar, and notice the subject matter and how the character spoken to reacts.

Yep, I mean JUST the eyes are fairly easy if you teach yourself what to look for. e.g. are the eyebrows at an angle/raised/furrowed, are the eyes narrowed horizontally or vertically, which way are the pupils pointing (are they both going up, indicating thoughtfulness, are they both going to one side indicating fear or shyness, are they pointing sharply forward indicating focus or accusation etc.) and what the eyelids are doing.

Interesting, I am sure I look for those things subconsciously, but on a conscious level I didn't "mentally" verbalize the questions you listed here.

My EQ was 23. Would this be about right for someone with Asperger's? The test said most with Asperger's score "about 20" on the EQ.

My AQ was 36 (typical for Asperger's.) However my systemizing and Mind in the Eyes were higher than what they should be for AS--not outlandishly higher, though. Just a bit higher.

What to make of this?

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Male, 25 years old, if I hadn't mentioned that

Solana Wrote:

I also took the systemizing test and I scored 50. Do other people really not wonder how things work and how they fit in with their surroundings and the rest of the world?? What a boring existence!

I understand being interested in how things work (I am, but not to the extent of most with AS) and their surroundings (I am very curious about the environment), but I am surprised how you mentioned you didn't have a math interest before, and that (like me) you were poor in Math.

My theory was the better in Math you are, the higher your systemizing score.

I guess I could be wrong?

Ren Chou Wrote:

Female 31 I scored 26, but the multiple choice means you can use elimination as a method to work out the answer. Found it harder to do the more subtle expressions, most of them either looked indifferent or hostile.

I got 20 for empathy and 36 for AQ and 26 for systemizing so two tests make me aspie and the other two make me average!

Same here. But I still think I am very much Aspie, just a less typical kind of Aspie.

Samuel Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

Samuel Wrote:

Male 20 Score:30
I have no problem understanding these or reading most body-language I think.

No, i'm not sure, Batman. In fact, this seems such a stable problem for everybody here - as opposed to some other difficulties, which some have and some don't - that I am beginning to think I might not be Aspie. I joined this site simultaneously with getting a diagnosis (still waiting) and had made the connection mainly because of social/communication difficulties mixed with compulsive routines and obsessive interests. Although I do have problems with eye contact and I have the neutral/miserable looking face I don't have any problems reading others' expressions. The interpretational problems, lack of empathy and of understanding seem so ubiquitous among aspies and whilst I often make inappropriate responses, i usually have an awareness of what I have done wrong (There are a lot of question posts saying things like why did my nt friend do this? The answers are usually fairly clear to me). Also, far from being close to animals, I have animal phobias.

I think that I maybe have a severe social phobia, depression, and OCD and have perhaps come to a conclusion that isn't actually the case because I wanted to have a nice neat explanation and feel part of a group.

I usually have an awareness of what I have done wrong, but only after 25 years of life and intensive analysis (I got extemely paranoid because my analytical ability became overwhelmed in adolescence.. I couldn't process new information "fast enough" anymore) that has helped me learn manually what I did wrong.

I do still have many interpretational problems, esp. in social situations (but also in subjects that require abstract thinking), I have a very natural lack of empathy (I don't know how to put myself in another's mind, really), and generally social understanding with me is below age-level, though I make up for it with labored mental analysis.

I think I am socially/emotionally delayed. I didn't have any childhood trauma that would set it off, or any problems of that nature (except for a father who yelled a lot, but that was it.) In fact I had friends as a kid and wanted to have friends (normal), but as the years went by, it became apparent that my development wasn't happening like it should be--I wasn't understanding things people my age were understanding.

Aspie-like or not?

stubbsk Wrote:

EQ=2
SQ=50
AQ=41
That's very AS like isn't it?

EQ of 2?

2????

Is English not your first language or something?

StuartM Wrote:

Including the two I've already posted my scores were:

EQ: 32
SQ: 12
AQ: 28
ME: 27

As I said my ME and SQ scores are higher and lower than would be expected for people with AS while my AQ and EQ scores are fairly narrowly within the expected range.

Same here, more or less...

Noetic Wrote:

stubbsk Wrote:

What's that got to do with it?

I think he was trying to imply only someone who didn't understand the questions properly (either because they don't speak English very well or because they are stupid etc.) could score that low.

That's what I meant, because we do have a lot of folks on AFF from countries where English isn't the "first language," etc.

And I didn't mean to imply any kind of negativity. Just some bewildered curiousity.

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