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I got a 33, but (duh) I'm not AS.

But as an English teacher, I would say that this test depends not only on an excellent English vocabulary, but on a very nuanced understanding of the subtle shades of meaning and fine distinctions for many of these words.

People who are non-native English speakers would probably score higher in their primary language.
Score: 19
Age: 18 (19 next month)
Gender: female

I'm pretty sure that's below average...
I got a scoreof 20
I'm 19 and male.

That test being multiple choice made it so much easier, without the choices I wouldn't have a clue what to answer on most of them.
I scored 23 back in January. Most of the images seemed to be the same and only the descriptions changed. Most of my answers were just a guess. Seemed a bit pointless to me.
I didn't think a 'V' shape meant so much. I always used to put a 'V' shape onto drawings I made or on peoples faces if I was scribbling over pictures as it made them look evil.
Here is the celebrity test score:

"If we exclude the ones you were unfamiliar with, you got 90% correct."

I never really thought I had trouble recognizing and differentiating people, I'm just not good at telling people's emotions from their faces (hence my crappy score on Mind in the Eyes).
I'm 29 and scored 29. Without the multiple choice though it would have been a lot lower.

Also scored 68% on the old/new face test.
Almost 16 years old, I am. I am also a guy. I just get overwhelmed by long periods of eye contact.

stubbsk Wrote:
I'm male, 17 and I scored 22, I took time to analyse each set of eyes and I found it easier as I got further into the test. I'm not sure If I should have choosen what jumped to mind or not because It's easy to judge people logically when you have to do it all the time.


A lot of those with AS develop powerful systems of analysis and this can possibly create such an accurate emulation of NT abilities that we may not even seem Aspie, a lot of the time.

My analytical abilities are so developed at this point, that's probably why I scored 27 on the Mind in the Eyes test, I kept comparing/contrasting the words, and looking at the eyes, over and over until I got it right through process of elimination.

If I had to do the test quickly, or at a normal rate, I would have done horribly.  But I took my time to get it right, so I "caught up."

StuartM Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
Hmm I also scored low on the systemizing test.  Perhaps we are in the same part of the spectrum?

Are you poor at math, BTW?

Maybe and like the general population I don't suppose everyone with AS has to be good at the same things.

I was ok at maths in primary school but I once got to secondary school and the work got more difficult I began to have big problems with it. What I always hated and couldn't do was formulas and equations and I never understood what I was supposed to be doing. I managed to narrowly pass my 4th year maths exam but had to drop the subject in 5th year after getting 25% in my prelim.


Yeah, that's how it was for me, and I was very average in Math in grade school but not horrific.. once I got to second year of high school, I was awful.  The equations/formulas posed a lot of problems.

Your point about the general population was interesting:  it seems most people think Asperger's are all great at math, or "like Spock" with lack of emotion/expression.

Nothing could be further from the truth, with me.

My scores for those other tests were (if I remember them correctly):

EQ: 18
SQ: 51
AQ: 36
The scores above are for the Simon Baron Cohen tests, not the ones Noetic is talking about. Where can I find the other ones?
SBC test scores:
Eyes test 25
EQ 39
SQ 69
AQ 30

Male, age 36

Noetic Wrote:
About those SBC tests - I find them very unsuitable for people on the autistic spectrum. They do not take literal interpretation into account, and are a pain in the backside for people who have difficulty "putting themselves into another's shoes" (because a lot of those questions relate to hypothetical situations). They also do not take interests and how strongly they can influence how much data you absorb about other things into account.

For example when I filled in the SQ test the first time, I had just moved house and was very preoccupied with technical details of washing machines and other gadgets and household implements as well as user manuals, whereas now I couldn't give a fig about any of them and am more interested in transport systems etc.


That's an excellent point.  A lot of us have "selective knowledge," e.g., in regards to interests; and a lot of things we were once interested in, have gone to the wayside because our obsessions change in odd/unpredictable ways.

For example I used to horrible at sports and never interested, all of a sudden in 9th grade somewhere, I played a hockey video game (NHL '94) and found something interesting about it.  From that odd point of entry I went from being completely indifferent about sports, to something of a big sports fan (in hockey.)

And then about 3-4 years later I was just completely disinterested in it.

Noetic Wrote:
PS: Scores today:
EQ: 15
SQ: 36
AQ: 42


My EQ was 23, my AQ was 36 (according to the test criteria, both of these scores are "correct" for Asperger's), but my SQ was in the typical range and Mind in the Eyes I scored 27, also in the typical range.

Anything to conclude from this, or is it possible that some bona-fide Aspies don't score very conclusively on the SBC tests, for whatever reason?

Thoughts?

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