Aspies For Freedom

Crystal


What is the list? Where can I sign up???

Jerry is an uncle aspie.  Just like the slave holders had their  slave "yes men"
so do we have Jerry Newport. A modern day Nazi collobrator.

Jerry, obviously you are not a "self-appointed" expert, so the obvious question is who appointed you? NT parents who need a puppet?

Aspergers IS autism!!!!, I understand that  lorna wing is now regretting that she invented the term aspergers syndrome when they are the same.  

Since when do you assume  we are all living on welfare? a NT parent must have told you so it must be true?? I can hear them now - "Look, at little jerry , aww he is so brave"


We have aspergers yet we are imposters?  please be consistent in your thinking if you can!!

also

jerry seems not to understand the point of the article. It was not focused merely on ABA but on "cure" as well.

middle of the road will lead to our extinction

Welcome Jerry


As far as the book goes, I guess sometimes, you do what you must in order to get  most of  views across.


Perhaps an e-book,  on JRC that printed on demand is necessary. Do you have any supporting documents relating to israel's loss of license? why and when?or how we can get it? any people from back then that can be interviewed and qouted?



Nice to have you here

slightly off-topic, maybe, but...

the publishing world is a nightmare (i speak from experience).  sometimes, it depends on what the editors/agents/publishers have had for lunch and the state of their digestions.

what i'm trying to say is that jerry is quite right in saying that publishers are practically gods when it comes to saying what can and can't be in a book, and i only work in fiction.  they will only publish what they're sure will sell.

i feel that it's better for the book to have been published incomplete rather than it not to have been published at all, and all the rest of its contents not getting into the public arena.

absolute and impeccable integrity is something i'd like to aspire to.  but i also believe in pragmatism.

is it possible to get any statistics about percentage of lgbt aspies as compared to lgbt people in the general population?  not just those who post, but in general, i mean.  would they be difficult to ascertain for those who are unable to express or even acknowledge their sexuality?  hmmm - now you've got me thinking...

this might clear up doubts, though.

on the other hand, my most positive experiences with relationships have been with NTs, and my most painful and difficult experiences with my aspie ex (who i still love very much, btw).  different strokes for different folks, i expect - it's both difficult and dangerous to generalise too much about such things, as people (whether they have AS or not) are so individual.

and i'm still laughing at the thought of Mr Helpful turning up with a blow-up doll - one has to laugh at the ridiculousness of it, otherwise one would cry.  thanks for that image, Jerry.

Stella, I checked out the reviews for Jerry's book on the amazon sites in Canada, USA and Britain (it's not been translated into German, so, the German site didn't have it listed).

You appear to have picked out the only two negative reviews you could find, and posted them here. They are hardly representative of the overall reader opinions. I hope people here won't only look at those and conclude from them that the book must be the garbage you make it out to be. Personally, I like to make up my own opinion after doing my own research.

I checked also the reviews for the first book Jerry Newport wrote, and they were all enthusiastically positive.

In my opinion, after reading many books on Asperger Syndrome (and many other subjects dear to my heart), you will find things in EVERY book you read that you don't like. My advice is: Take what you like and ignore what you don't (works for me :wink. And nobody forces you to buy and read anybody's books, anyway. Just because an author doesn't agree 100% with you is not a good reason for attacking him.

And for everybody's information: Of all the Aspies I know personally, both here in Canada and in Germany (and there are quite a few), and the ones I became good friends with over the Internet, not a single one is anything other than heterosexual (including myself). So, I don't know where you find the vast numbers of Aspies who are homosexual, bisexual or lesbian. Obviously, there are a few out there, as there are in the NT population. But even there, their numbers aren't nearly what people would want to believe. They make themselves very visible these days, which makes it appear that there are vast numbers of them. But that is quite misleading.

I am not saying this to put any of them down. I am just stating the facts. And as Jerry said: He is no expert on the matter. Therefore he isn't qualified to say much about this aspect of sexuality. Nobody can be everything to everybody. And Aspies aren't known to be able to think themselves into situations they aren't familiar with. So, somebody else more qualified will have to write this book about 'other' types of sexuality.

Noetic, I hear that it is VERY hard to get any book published. Jerry probably thought it was better to get the book published the way it finally appeared, than not to have it published at all. And I agree with him. You try to do better! It's easy to criticize, it's much harder to do better yourself.

Oops, you are right Noetic, and I apologize. I got confused because the full quote (omitting the last part) is this:

The 'Noetic says' at the beginning got me. The quote was indeed from Stella.

Lili Marlene, I disagree with you. Gays have been trying awfully hard to find a 'gay gene' or some other way to prove that they are that way from birth. They have had no success, as it is a choice, and a lifestyle.

With AS on the other hand, they are finding more and more real differences in the brain, and how the brain of Aspies functions differently in some aspects.

Nobody can convince me that anal sex is natural. It leads to awful bowel and digestive tract diseases, as well as damage to the anus and bowels (including horrible hemorrhoids, which are the least dangerous of all those problems). I refrain from giving a real list here, as there are people too young here to read that kind of thing. And yes, I have done extensive research on the subject, since it was one of my obsessions for several years (stemming from research on AIDS).

And on average, gays and lesbians have a much lower life expectancy than heterosexuals. And that is NOT just my opinion, it has been proven (I can look up the numbers if you want to know them).

And no, I don't hate or condemn gays, and I don't attack them (since I know of several here, I COULD have done so, but obviously haven't). But the truth is still the truth.

By the way Brightman, when people have no REAL and logical arguments, that's when they come out with nonsense words like HOMOPHOBIC. It's meant to make people feel bad, and it's meant as an insult, and was invented just to shut people up.

I have no intentions of continuing in this thread for my own reasons, which are:

1. I don't have the energy for fruitless and ridiculous discussions, since it would obviously end up in me being insulted and ridiculed for my opinions (and obviously already has).

2. I don't have any intention of doing any more research (or re-research) this subject, as I was done with a a couple of years ago.

3. I don't want to have to leave here, since it seems to me that nobody would take my side, and if I would feel everybody here hates me, I couldn't stay. And I like having found a place where at least some of the people are much like me (in contrast to be surrounded only by people who are NTs and don't know how I think at all).

So, I will go back to my earlier way of being, which is to avoid all posts that I think I would get too emotionally involved in for my own good.

I recommend that uncouth Americans consider migrating to Australia. They might fit in better here.

No, he did not seem aggressive. He came across as very weird, naive and in some way *** which made his intelligence all the more strange. I thought he must have had very limitied experience in dealing with other human beings. Perhaps he never had a friend to grow up with. A few times I have been in a situation in which I have recognised my kind of weirdness in others, and they obviously had more of it than I do, and I have found that unnerving, because I think I'm quite weird enough.

The first time I ever heard my voice on tape I thought "That can't be me!" I also hate being photographed and seeing photos of myself. Do all people feel like that?

I have doubts about how much aspie voices can be controlled or modified. I think the voice is a reflection of one's personality, mind and emotions. One can learn to imitate vocal social customs and stock phrases, but repressing things that show in the voice is not so easy. I think not being aware of how one sounds to other people is only one of the things that makes our voices sound odd.

Could it be the case that NTs (most of them) are good at keeping tabs on how they sound to others while also doing stuff, but we are less good at doing two things at once, so we just do stuff, and are not keeping tabs on how loud or or high-pitched our voices are? Is it all to do with attention/attention-switching?

If only I could act smart and be smart at the same time, I'd be dangerous!

Having a monotonous voice didn't stop Marlene Dietrich, Ed Kuepper, Morrissey or Bryan Ferry from acheiving fame as singers. If you're sexy, German or talented enough you can get by without intonation.