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I don't like my country.

I just want order and security, through somewhat harsher means than usual.
Australia+Civilisation=Bullshit.

and thats not a generalization :p i mean, look at the outback with ya riding in toyota pickups and kangaroos and giant scorpions like in fallout.
hah Nazbol :p

now that is a red plague.
I associate nationalism with nazism and egoism, but maybe am I wrong?
The meaning of the term "nationalist" can differ greatly depending on a particular nation and the circumstances in which it exists. Here is Scotland anyone who supports independence from the British state, like me, is usually termed a "nationalist" even if they take strongly internationalist positions such as removing all border and immigration controls. If I support nationalism at all then it is a progressive civic nationalism where people can be proud of their own nation and culture while at the same time celebrating cultural diversity and welcoming people from all over the world.
The idea of a Totalitarian Dictatorship fascinates me.

it would be militaristic, organised and competant.

would prob lead the world to hell and back :p
Hoo boy theres the problem..

the British Naz-NATIONAL Party ;p

Anti Foreigner, Anti Communist, Anti Homosexual, Anti Disabled..probably Anti Aspie.

If you even consider voting for them I will strike you ;p

Sat_Chit_Anand Wrote:
I do not agree with much of the above.

Well why are you in the British Nazi Party then if you don't agree with their policies? Stop reading all their propaganda and open your mind the realities which everyone else is prepared to acknowledge. Under the BNP's ideal system any semblence of democracy and individual freedom will be crushed under the boot of an all powerful state and people who either fail to fit in (like those with AS) or don't do what they're told will be sent to concentration camps.[/b]

Jean-Pierre Wrote:

Ian Wrote:
Hoo boy theres the problem..

the British Naz-NATIONAL Party ;p

Anti Foreigner, Anti Communist, Anti Homosexual, Anti Disabled..probably Anti Aspie.

If you even consider voting for them I will strike you ;p


Being a Communist, i have got no interest / gain / reward in defending the BNP.

Nevertheless, we should be fair with them:

Anti-Foreigner: UNTRUE ! The actually want England to belong to the English, and not to multi-cultured / multi-lingual invaders.

Anti-Homosexual: What point is there in this? Gays have never harmed anyone.  

Anti-Disabled: There's a terrible misunderstanding here. They don't hate the DISABLED PERSON. They hate the DISABILITY = they wish that everyone were born healthy.


Is it really called BNP?

Here in Norway BNP means Brutto National Product.

Here it is:



John Tyndall on the left of the picture is the man who founded the BNP.
I think the BNP should be crushed by the weight of the people. Scientists, Doctors, Entrepreneurs, Farmers, Factory Workers...every decent human being who defies fascist ideals.

Nazi out! Nazi out!

Sat_Chit_Anand Wrote:
Dreadful photo of John Tyndall in Nazi uniform. He founded not just the BNP but the National Front as well and he never denied that he had been part of an extremist paramilitary organisation.

That may be true but the BNP today is no different and I've seen loads of Tv programmes which have exposed them as the same old Nazis they've always been.

Sat_Chit_Anand Wrote:
The Nazi's ideas were sound except that they blamed 'the Jews' and other minorities and put science above morality.

I do not think that the BNP do that. Instead they place the blame where it should be - on the failure of the Establishment parties. I like their policies. I like the party.

If you really believe the Nazis' policies were sound then you are, in my view, either a totalitarian nutter for which there is no hope and who dreams of a society reminiscent of that Orwell wrote about in 1984, or you have been seriously misled and will hopefully grow out of your primitive ideology at some point in the future.

The BNP blames minorities, mainly immigrants and asylum seekers, for everything that's gone wrong in the UK. Their attacks on other parties are mainly based on the idea that these parties are only interested in representing minorities - on Friday night in their party election broadcast they claimed that my party (the SSP) "won't even touch you unless you're an asylum seeker".

Sat_Chit_Anand Wrote:
I prefer their policies to the other political parties. Capitalists and socialists have nothing to offer me.

If there is concern about the BNP then perhaps a more moderate alternative needs to be created?

I think that they will do well in the next election.

No populist right-wing party will ever in my view be moderate. But as for what you call a "more moderate alternative" then I would certainly not like to see such a thing as it's much easier for the left to fight against outright Nazis than it is to fight a party like the Norwegian Progress Party or the Swiss People's Party.

Ooh yeah a 1984 society..i wouldn't mind that ;p
No, and anti-semitism was pretty central to Nazi viewpoints, not some side-note.  By the way, just being small in numbers and not being liked very well isn't the same as being oppressed.  Here in the USA the KKK is small in numbers and not liked very well and that's because they're nasty hate-filled racists, not because they're some oppressed minority that deserves protection as such.  If people don't like being lumped in with the views of the KKK, they shouldn't join it.  Likewise the BNP.
Another thread that's totally detioriated into a pointless mess......

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