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Norad Wrote:
4. "Like the time Moses the Pharoah killed every first born Jew....." -- On of my peers in class said this. The irony of it is that she claims to be a devout catholic.


Hardly surprising.  Few Catholics read the Bible.  It's not encouraged.  T=If they do, they might start interpreting it and realize that the Church is wrong. Tongue

Meiloyn Wrote:

  Them: You're a good drawer.
  Me: No I'm not. I slid myself out of the dresser.
  Them: What?
  Me: I'm an artist, not a "drawer".
  Them: Can you draw me something?
  Me: *writes ME SOMETHING on the paper in big thick letters* There.


Actually, that's more pretentious and obnoxious of you than it is "stupid" of them-- and "drawer" is a perfectly valid term for a person who draws, by the way.

Maybe it bothers you that strangers ask you to draw them things, but it sounds like they're trying to be friendly. You could just tell them to please leave you alone because you're trying to concentrate or that you don't take requests for pictures instead of being a smartass.

And Ian, how is someone's not being able to guess your age "stupid"? Am I missing part of the story here? Also, the rape-sprog comment was tasteless and uncalled for. Sad

My personal favorite (from a Christian evangelist):

"Beware. Satan will try to confuse you with logic."

When I was in early elementary school, I was frequently told that I couldn't check chapter books out of the school library as they were "too advanced for you". Even after I read several paragraphs of a Sherlock Holmes story aloud without fumbling a single word, the teachers assumed that I wasn't able to really understand what I was reading. I got stuck with Berenstain Bear type crap for another year-- these had little red stickers on the spine and were considered the lowest level books in the library, for beginning readers. Almost all of the good books, even the wordier picture books, had yellow or white stickers on the spine and were forbidden to students below grade 3, unless they were in the Gifted/Learning Enrichment class.

(This was 10 years ago and I'm still a bit sore about it.)

seven Wrote:
my art teacher says a drawer is what you put your cloths in. she said don't use that word in her class. she had been teaching at a high grade college for years.

an artist is someone who creates art, NOT someone who simply "draws" it implies a lack of creativity and skill when you call someone a "drawer" its extremely insulting to some people.



Actually, I do draw. And I do not think it is an insulting term, just a specific one. A sulptor sculpts, a painter paints, a dancer dances, ect.-- so what's wrong with draw/drawer? None of the aforementioned terms are considered offensive or belittling. "Artist" is very general and could apply to musicians, painters, sculptors, performers, fashion designers, printmakers, writers, dancers, cartoonists, animators and more. There's nothing wrong with it, either, but I don't see how it's a superior word. To me, saying " I'm not a drawer , I'm an artist " is like saying " I'm not a biologist , I'm a scientist ".

On further thought, "illustrator" is probably the correct term, not "drawer". Still, my point stands. Joe or Jane Average probably will not know this, and it's not completely reasonable to expect him/her to.

I agree that it's annoying when people expect you to draw them things, but I don't think they should be handled in a mean way, as they probably don't realize that they're being rude. Also, they are giving you a compliment, even though they're being presumptuous. All I'm saying is, a polite but firm "No, I'm busy" is a better approach to the situation than "Ooh! Let me show off my caustic razor wit!"

steven Wrote:
Hi "how she twists and twirls"
Why is it so important to tell this person he/she is wrong? Ever considered this is a way to let of frustration that we carry with us after years of not being understood?
ever consider that some people may find small talk and purposeless remarks like "are you cold?" time consuming and annoying?

Just because NT's think it's a nice thing to do doesn't mean we should agree just because NT are higher in number.


It's not "because NTs think it's a nice thing to do", it's because I'm opposed to ridiculing people for relatively minor faux pas (es?) on principle. Like I was saying, it is possible to let someone know that they're annoying you without gratuitously insulting them.  I don't understand the logic behind taking out your anger at "years of not being understood" on an innocent, random bystander just because s/he happens to be NT, either. I wasn't really trying to be argumentative here or to start up a fight, just to express my opinion. I have the right to do that, just as you do. Tired of this conversation now, so I shan't say anything more on the subject. Sorry if any of my comments were interpereted as incendiary, that wasn't what I was going for at all.

When people ask what you said even if they heard you and do so aggresively. And when people ask if there's a problem with what they're doing when they're doing it on purpose.

Meiloyn Wrote:
Excessive use of double-meaning sarcasm is my hint to please go away.

I'm also usually excessively sarcastic only when I'm not in the mood for people looking over my shoulder asking me to draw something for them.

Usually I am tolerant of the word "drawer" even though I find it an awkward-sounding word to use.


Ah. Okay. Smile

Meiloyn Wrote:
I guess neurotypicals can't read between autistic lines, just like autistics can't read between neurotypical lines.


?

I do have an ASD...I guess I'm just generally dense.

A grade school teacher said to me, "If the whole world were marching left, right, left, right, you would be marching right, left, right, left, and say that you are in step and the rest of the world is out of step."
     So I asked her "What proof does the world have that it is marching in step?"
     She replied, "Well, if that is the way you think you might as well let people run around without any clothes on just because the weather is warm!" That contributed to my growing up to become a nudist.

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Yesterday I managed to get the classic, "but you can't have Asperger's, you're so intelligent" line from two different people... *sigh*


That's what I surely will hear from my mother if my self-diagnosis appears to be correct....

One of my college roomates told me that when he was in high school, the coach forced everyone in 9th grade to go out for football. He wired himself up with batteries and a home made cattle prod that he used to make it impossible to tackle him (He weighed only 100#) When he showed his invention to the coach, the coach fulminated fuchsia face iracundulous, drove to his mother's house, and began sereaming at his mother who began laughing at him. The more she laughed the harder he screamed and the harder he screamed the harder she laughed. He nearly crashed driving away in a rage. I never did respect jockocracy or what they call sports.
What the heck is an ice cube ball?

I also hate those kind of obvious comments, like "it's getting really cold out there"(um, thanks I don't have some disease that prevents me from feeling temperature) .
Yesterday, a friend of my parents arrives to their home, I'm accidentally there. After a short "Hello" comes the question - "Are you ill?" (well, I think he is not the only one getting that impression when meeting me for the first time...). we talked a bit, drank tea etc. and when the man left, he asks:" are you SURE you are healthy?". LOL, would he be my age i'd respond "and you?"
I was told once, the last day of 7th grade, by a mean popular girl with her friends, blocking me from getting to my math class: "YOU should be making yourself more like US"

I'd had a hard day, and was really tired, but that made me crack up. I laughed harder than I had in years, and said "Thanks - I need that, that was a good one." and laughed some more hysterically. They were so dismayed that they just sort of dissipated and I got into class.

This same girl is the one who, when she was new to my school in the sixth grade, and I heard some of the girls and boys complaining about her, saying she wore too much make-up or was kind of snobby, that I defended her to give her the benefit of the doubt.

She later on criticized me for having to use the same bathroom stall I always use (a routine) and for being "in [my] own little world". She was really gossipy and mean, and then I didn't see her much in most of 7th grade until that day, just knew that she was promiscuous and didn't care about hurting people's feelings.

Xen Wrote:
I've gotten a lot of comments like that.

"why are you laughing?"....eh because I think somethings funny

"why are you staring at the ground" Because I can

"why do you dress like that?"


My solution to that question is to wear a button that says, "If you can't dress weird, why dress at all."

Barney Wrote:

Xen Wrote:
I've gotten a lot of comments like that.

"why are you laughing?"....eh because I think somethings funny

"why are you staring at the ground" Because I can

"why do you dress like that?"


My solution to that question is to wear a button that says, "If you can't dress weird, why dress at all."


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