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It's only a disorder when you can get benifits from it (DLA, free bus pass, etc).

BOOYAH!!!

Kurai-Gaka Wrote:
It's only a disorder when you can get benifits from it (DLA, free bus pass, etc).

BOOYAH!!!


Going to university is a disorder? Tongue

i think its a diffence.

bohemian_storm Wrote:

Kurai-Gaka Wrote:
It's only a disorder when you can get benifits from it (DLA, free bus pass, etc).

BOOYAH!!!


Going to university is a disorder? Tongue


I'm only saying that when the government think you are disabled, sometimes they may give you certain benefits.

bohemian_storm Wrote:

Kurai-Gaka Wrote:
It's only a disorder when you can get benifits from it (DLA, free bus pass, etc).

BOOYAH!!!


Going to university is a disorder? Tongue


Yeh, I'm just saying that the government considers me to be disabled and so I can get DLA which is very good because my mother doesn't make a lot of money so this helps her out. Now isn't autism helpful? My mum thinks so.

It'll be just like Revenge of the Nerds!

Okay... I never actually saw that movie, I was 3 when it came out... but it sounds like it could fit!

Batman55 Wrote:
Why is RichardL banned?

I thought he was a respected member of this board.


I gathered from a different thread that he had an inappropriate or otherwise unacceptable avatar. I don't know what it was.

Hello EnglishLulu,
I was thinking that perhaps if you have someone in your life (friend, family member, etc.) that is good at organizing that you might ask them to help you? Since you have no problems with a system at work that was already set in place for you, I was thinking that if someone were to set up a system for you at home that it may work for you just as easily. They could set up an area in your home where you could possibly have a desk or a table where all of your things would be in one place. There are so many cool ways to organize paperwork, bills, etc. these days. It seems to me that you have become overwhelmed by it and therefore you just avoid it and by doing so it becomes even more overwhelming!
I hope you have someone that would enjoy doing this task for you. If they use their creativity and make it an enjoyable place for you to go and take care of your business, perhaps it won't be such of a chore.
It's just one kind of generalised personality. I like the fact that we almost certainly think indepently and don't act like sheep so to speak. There's the benifit of being better connected to reality but not society. Being able to enjoy the most mundane things is great.
disorder is a word created by humans to put ppl in to category's.
we are what we are, everyone is different.
some more then others.
it does not make it a disorder.
i dont get it
so if we start analyzing hamsters, and some hamsters rather eat at 11:48 rather then 12:00 they have 11:48 disorder that is due to a chemical imbalance in the left side of their brains.

even though that chemical diffrence really is due to the fact that 289328 years ago there where 2 diffrent types of hamsters 11:48 hamsters and 12:00 hamsters, they interbred and now in the genetic pool there is a mix.

still the fact is, some hamsters eat at 11:54.

so my question is.
should we kill all hamsters that eat at 11:48 and the sectrum till 12:00 and let the "normal" hamsters who eat at 12:00 live?
oh sorry not kill, remove them from the genepool, let the ones that are living now live, but remove the rest?

reason for this?
it would be far too expensive and confusing to print "food is served 11:48 and 12:00"

it would be easier if everyone else had their food at 12.


bah
i guess some people will never understand my logic.

bipolarbear Wrote:
disorder is a word created by humans to put ppl in to category's.
we are what we are, everyone is different.
some more then others.
it does not make it a disorder.
i dont get it
so if we start analyzing hamsters, and some hamsters rather eat at 11:48 rather then 12:00 they have 11:48 disorder that is due to a chemical imbalance in the left side of their brains.

even though that chemical diffrence really is due to the fact that 289328 years ago there where 2 diffrent types of hamsters 11:48 hamsters and 12:00 hamsters, they interbred and now in the genetic pool there is a mix.

still the fact is, some hamsters eat at 11:54.

so my question is.
should we kill all hamsters that eat at 11:48 and the sectrum till 12:00 and let the "normal" hamsters who eat at 12:00 live?
oh sorry not kill, remove them from the genepool, let the ones that are living now live, but remove the rest?

reason for this?
it would be far too expensive and confusing to print "food is served 11:48 and 12:00"

it would be easier if everyone else had their food at 12.


bah
i guess some people will never understand my logic.


But how do we get over the fact that some people call Aspies immature because we don't branch out socially as much as others, or because a lot of us choose not to juggle the thousands of responsibilities that NTs choose to juggle--instead preferring to be more solitary?

What would you think about the therapist I had who said the following statement, to my brother: "With Asperger's Syndrome, the social part of the brain is very immature."

That is undisputed fact, my brother never lies about these things, and my therapist did say that to him.

So if we're not disorders and we're just different (I do agree with this, but stick with me here...), then how should we handle hurtful adjectives being thrown at us, talking about how certain parts of an Aspie's brain are "immature" ?

How do we deal with such labels that don't fit "disorder," but don't necessarily fit "difference" either... labels like "immature" that strictly measure Aspies against NT standards?  Labels that seek to make us feel bad about ourselves, and thusly motivated to "be like everyone thinks we should be" ?

In many respects, it is a disorder but for every negavtive side, I find that there are positive sides that outweigh it so it is a difference to me. I like the feeling of being seperated (socially) from others. It lets me look over the world and observe it.  

NT's are so interesting to observe. many times I've consdered them to be something of lab rats to experiment with my new social skills (however, that sound nasty towards NT's but I don't mean it that way)

Kurai-Gaka Wrote:
In many respects, it is a disorder but for every negavtive side, I find that there are positive sides that outweigh it so it is a difference to me. I like the feeling of being seperated (socially) from others. It lets me look over the world and observe it.  

NT's are so interesting to observe. many times I've consdered them to be something of lab rats to experiment with my new social skills (however, that sound nasty towards NT's but I don't mean it that way)


I feel the same way.  I love observing things without actually being a part of them.  And they are interesting to observe, I just have to look at things and take in every detail.

I'm always looking at everything, recording details I find interesting.

I'd say it's a disorder. Cos we're not alone on this planet after all. We need other people to survive and we need to work together. I know it's easy to say that we're just 'different' because NT is the norm, but imagine if it was the other way around. Imagine if the majority of the people on the planet had an autistic spectrum disorder. That would be disastrous IMO. So that's why I say it's a disorder, not a difference.

Noetic Wrote:

Droog Wrote:
I'd say it's a disorder. Cos we're not alone on this planet after all. We need other people to survive and we need to work together


Do you mean it's a disorder because humans need to cooperate to survive, and not being able to cooperate is a disorder? With that I agree, but if you mean that *needing other people to survive* is a disorder then by that definition being human is a disorder, too.


The need for co-operation, yes Smile

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