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What do you guys think?

By the way... props to Craig Nicholls for being able to go as far as he did.  Not that I care for his music, of course.
Most things in life are open to interpretation, but I'll say difference.
It's a difference.

energeia Wrote:
Ah...no, but thanks.  This was a thread that needs to die.  And the perp conceded.


If you don't feel like posting the URL on the board, would you feel comfortable sending it to me via Private Message?

I'd be happy if I could get my executive dysfunction "cured". But the rest of my autism? Uh-uh. That's ME. No way are they going to touch that.
Definately Different ... and enjoying the difference ...
... consider this ... if increases in aspies diagnosis rate continues, we will be the "normal" and the current NT's will be concidered different and weird and need to be cured ... but there's already things they need to be cured of ... like insisting on curing anyone that is different ...

energeia Wrote:
I saw the movie...basically, the nerds (guys) get the attractive girls because they are considerate in bed as contrasted to the jocky guys.

Richard--to answer your question, no...it really is a thread that needed to die.  The aspie part of it was a sidenote to a flame war between two people.


Why is RichardL banned?

I thought he was a respected member of this board.

We do have handicaps. My Asperger's is the reason I can't drive a car, and probably why I'll never be married (and why I'm quite content with that idea); it keeps me from enjoying parties, having a lot of friends, or expressing myself through nonverbal speech or the "clothing code"; it makes me prone to depression. And don't get me started on sensory overload.

But Asperger's also gives me a lot of things that I wouldn't have without it. Being content to be alone really keeps me from ever being lonely. My brain is logical and I have a good memory. When I focus on something, I become an expert in it. And my associational/visual (rather than verbal) thought pattern makes me unusually creative when finding solutions to problems, as well as gifted when handling mechanical problems, from quilting to small-appliance repair. I have perfect pitch and play the recorder and piano by ear.

Asperger's is a lot of good things and a lot of bad things. In my mind, they cancel out--they make me different, but not inferior or superior. There are things NTs can do that I can only dream of... but there are things I can do that they find amazing. I think the world needs Aspies--we're the ones that fit into the niches NTs can't fill; and the world works better when we're in it.

stubbsk Wrote:
It's just one kind of generalised personality. I like the fact that we almost certainly think indepently and don't act like sheep so to speak. There's the benifit of being better connected to reality but not society. Being able to enjoy the most mundane things is great.


i second that Smile, and i would have to say its a difference.

I would prefer to call it a difference, or an unusual personality type.  That is not to overlook the associated disabilities.  It may be that we are just more likely than others to have certain disabilities, but that we are not the only ones that can have them.  Are there any specific disabilities that have been documented exclusively in aspies?

I can deal with "Syndrome", but am concerned that "Disorder" only encourages disrespect from others.  I would prefer that each disability be addressed individually and not all lumped together in association with the personality type.

garmonbozia Wrote:
I would prefer to call it a difference, or an unusual personality type.  That is not to overlook the associated disabilities.  It may be that we are just more likely than others to have certain disabilities, but that we are not the only ones that can have them.  Are there any specific disabilities that have been documented exclusively in aspies?

I can deal with "Syndrome", but am concerned that "Disorder" only encourages disrespect from others.  I would prefer that each disability be addressed individually and not all lumped together in association with the personality type.


Yeah, I think there should be a logical separation between the cognitive difficulties that most folks don't have to deal with, and the more common Aspie personality types.

I certainly have an uncommon personality type for an Aspie, but that doesn't mean I don't have AS.  So, let's keep 'em separate.

I wish y'all would agree.

garmonbozia Wrote:
I would prefer to call it a difference, or an unusual personality type.  That is not to overlook the associated disabilities.  It may be that we are just more likely than others to have certain disabilities, but that we are not the only ones that can have them.

That's true for me, too.

garmonbozia Wrote:
Are there any specific disabilities that have been documented exclusively in aspies?


I haven't heard of any.

Wouldn't poor social skills be a near-universal disability among Aspies? But of course those occur with other disabilities, and even among NTs...
It's a difference.  I hate the word "disorder."  I don't mind "disability" to refer to some of the impairments/problems autistics may have, because "disability" is basically a neutral term, but "disorder" is not a word that I would ever use.
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