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glad u finally have a dx

EnglishLulu Wrote:
Well, it only took about four years of wrangling with my previous GP and then the PCT but I made it!

I've been assessed as having Asperger's Syndrome (albeit atypical because I don't have dyspraxia and my communication problems aren't so severe) and I was also told that it sounds like I might have met the criteria for ADD as a child.


Why is it so hard to get a diagnosis?

I'm one who strays slightly from the typical Male Aspie profile in that:

1) I don't take things apart and try to figure them out
2) I'm extremely stifled by Math
3) My interests aren't that "scientific"
4) I don't have major stims

However, I can say that my *brother* completely fits the above profile.

I seem to be more of an "arty Aspie"--if such a thing exists?

What do you think?

"The math genius thing is an autism cliche, not reality."

It's not that most Aspies are math geniuses, but that many math geniuses are Aspie -- that's where the stereotype was born.

On the other hand, my Aspie boyfriend has a PhD in Theoretical Physics (emphasis cosmology) from U C Berkeley, so he's certainly doing his part to boost the cliche.

And  Theosoph, Calculus IV may not sound brilliant to you, but -- damn -- I'm glad I teach Algebra I, because I really struggle with Algebra II. So you sound like a genius to me...

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Noetic Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
2) I'm extremely stifled by Math


Actually, Dyscalculia (math dyslexia so to say) is very common among Aspies, according to various studies (I believe Chris Gillberg did a lot of work on this). The math genius thing is an autism cliche, not reality.


I tend to agree. The highest level of math that I took in college and that I could understand was Calculus IV. I took higher level classes in probability theory but couldn't understand a single thing. Same thing happened when I took advanced physics classes. All the talk about time light cones and gaussian surfaces really blew my mind.


I don't think you understand.

Perhaps it would clarify it to say that I took an extra year in high school *because* I very nearly got a 10% or lower in INTEGRATED MATH 3 in my senior year!

For me to have gotten even a C in that class, I would have had to work on that nutmeg-dumb kind of math at least an hour every night.  Since I didn't, I didn't understand anything.  I was a complete fool, and decided I would be a foolish rebel and get almost a 0 on every quiz.  I nearly fulfilled that prophecy.  Because of the deluxe F-minuses in math, I had to take an extra year in high school, because I didn't want to do summer school (how logical is that?)

Then in Super Senior Class, I took Integrated Math 2--I actually went backwards from the class of yesteryear!  Integrated Math 2 was intended for sophomores, and also freshman who wanted to test the waters.  I took it in my extra year, and averaged a C !

Here you are talking about Calculus IV, in college.  I don't even think you can *begin* to grasp my level of difficulty with Math.

I am Extra-deluxe-hyper disabled in Maths.

Max the Bear Wrote:
"The math genius thing is an autism cliche, not reality."

It's not that most Aspies are math geniuses, but that many math geniuses are Aspie -- that's where the stereotype was born.

On the other hand, my Aspie boyfriend has a PhD in Theoretical Physics (emphasis cosmology) from U C Berkeley, so he's certainly doing his part to boost the cliche.

And  Theosoph, Calculus IV may not sound brilliant to you, but -- damn -- I'm glad I teach Algebra I, because I really struggle with Algebra II. So you sound like a genius to me...


All this talk about higher level education, and teaching, and so on, is making me feel really dumb.

I must be one of the less-intelligent Aspies, because I didn't just suck at school.  I was actually *horrific,* a complete mess.  Although social anxiety seemed to affect a lot of it, since I could barely bring myself to do presentations.  I would have paranoid breakdowns the day I had to do them.

Eventually I decided that I would skip presentations, and ask the teacher if I could do something else, like write a paper, instead.

But you know what?  I also sucked at writing papers (despite high verbal IQ), because as they say with AS, there's a problem with "central coherence."  That says it all, with me.  Nothing I do in life, or school, makes sense.

Noetic Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
All this talk about higher level education, and teaching, and so on, is making me feel really dumb.


I know what you mean - although my overall IQ is slightly above average, and even though when I was little I was thought to be 'gifted' (I am I guess but not in the way they thought, I just have my own way of learning and doing things but not that of a gifted NT) and mostly got good grades without trying until I entered High School, I have always had a more 'unconscious' way of learning than most people. I never wanted to go to university but teachers & my parents flipped at the thought, they just didn't understand that it was becoming impossible for me to emulate the knowledge at a more and more complex level the way I had done (mostly self-taught) in earlier years.


It seems that I had also been self-taught.  For example my abilities in verbal subjects, like English, felt "automatic."  I didn't need to think for a much of it.

But that all changed in high school.  There was much more "gray area," and I couldn't emulate things fast enough (as you pointed out.)

It seems you learn like I do, but you have a faster processor.

Which isn't fair.

Noetic Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
It seems that I had also been self-taught.  For example my abilities in verbal subjects, like English, felt "automatic."  I didn't need to think for a much of it.

But that all changed in high school.  There was much more "gray area," and I couldn't emulate things fast enough (as you pointed out.)

Indeed, in my diagnostic report the psychiatrist specifically mentioned that a lot of people on the autism spectrum struggle a lot more (because of this reason) in high school.

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It seems you learn like I do, but you have a faster processor.

Which isn't fair.


It isn't, but a) I am sure you have talents that I don't have,  plus in the end I guess having a faster processer also had its bad sides - it made people's expectations a lot bigger, so that by the time I really couldn't hack it any more nobody believed me!


But then, how did you make it through college?

I mean, you tend to make it seem like you're not "that much smarter" than me, in terms of abilities that school requires of you.  But you clearly are *that* much better with scholastic intelligence.

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