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I know there are some, so I made a thread. I've only been recently researching socialism, but it's seems to be a position that I easily agree with.
Time has shown that a market economy is the most efficient way to distribute and allocate resources.

timhomer2007 Wrote:
A good example of leftist socialism is in South America.  The most well-known leftist is Hugo Chavez, president of Venezuela.  He is rapidly putting the major industries there under state control, and is a fierce critic of U.S. policy.

Bolivian president Evo Morales is as fanatic of the leftist movement as Chavez.

Virtually all of the other socialist leaders in South America are taking a more moderate approach and often have good ties with the U.S.  An example is President Luis Inacio Lula da Silva of Brazil.  

While not in South America, Nicaragua is once again led by Daniel Ortega--who, although still socialist, is not the fanatic leader he was in the 1980s.

Colombia and Peru are not socialist, and Colombia was the only South American nation to support the war in Iraq.  And we never hear about Guyana or Suriname, so I don't know where they are politically.

Tim


Those are good examples of democratic socialism, the sort of veiws held by Albert Einstien, Betrand Russell, and Eugene Debs. I would say that I am drawn most strongly to democratic socialism, along with a direct-as-possible democracy.

The BNP is racist party.
There are many examples of capitalism failing to allocate resources. Concider, for example AIDs and other diseases in Africa and American drug companies. The drug companies will make only the products that sell and the people in Africa can't afford health care. As a result millions of Africans die from easily treatable diseases, and little research is done for incurable diseases like AIDs; instead the drug companies wage a war against dandruff an erectile dysfuction. We live in a sad world.
DNEB. dandruff and ED.

quickduck

I work for a company that does work for the UK Labour Party.  

I have socialist tendencies but have a strong belief in egalitarianism so am overly keen on the idea of government.

Hey, perhaps I should become an anarchist.
No one has proposed anything violent, and everyone is intitled to their own opinion. There's no reason to close this thread.
No, it means that capitalists consume more of it Rolleyes.
I'm not for the common view of socialism.  Besides, these terms have been hijacked long ago.  Socialism used to mean helping each other just like when friends help each other for a common good.  I'd be ok where there's still a work for reward system.  Where the more you help out, the more you and your neighbourhood benefit.  But no one forces you to work just as much as everyone else.  What happens is that people will feel ripped off that some are working harder than others.  That's why I have an actual system in place I'd like to see implemented.  It's where you ask for things and also go out and do work for others.  So if you see someone that's done lots of work, then you'd be more likely to help them out in return.  But you don't use money.  Everything is voluntary, but there's also mechanisms for getting exactly what you want too.  Anyways, I'd like that better since you never have to worry about food or losing your house and car.  Helping the poor and those in need would count for bonus.  Stuff like that.

What people fail to realise with capitalism is that while you can very well make millions, the likely scenario is that you will work for someone else your entire life.  I'd rather have everyone have a good life than a few that are filthy rich.  I want everyone around me to be successful.

I know it's not perfect.  Just thinking out loud.
There are all sort of ideas that are much more practical and much less dogmatic than the systems used in North Korea and Cuba. I would be in favor of a fexiable form of government, one that could according to the situation.

What I am not in favor of, is a bunch of rich b*****ds drinking champane and eating at steak bar everyday, while people strave by the millions else where.

Ian Wrote:
I don't care what the rich bastards do tbh.


The suffering of those people does not justify the reward of being rich.

You don't cause it, but you ensure that it will never get better.
This thread should be closed; it's turned into a rant thread.

wilky

Logical paradox Wrote:
I know there are some, so I made a thread. I've only been recently researching socialism, but it's seems to be a position that I easily agree with.


I can recommend a good book.
Try and get your hands on "Arguments for Socialism" by Tony Benn, an English politician.
They stopped printing this book some years ago but I think they may have started printing again. You could try Amazon or Ebay.
Or google "Tony Benn" and have a look at one of the websites.

http://www.b ennites.com/ (broken)

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